Sunday, October 09, 2005

Drug Bust Jails 22 Innocents


Two Friends. The two of us, the other I will call Jack. What started out as a regular night out will turn into something ugly. Where the two of us and two dozen others will be detained, hand cuffed, jailed, degraded, stripped of clothing, extorted and shamed. This will be a story of corruption and of police mishandling

It was a drug bust at a famous night club at Sri Hartamas. Something that all of us, later proved innocent by hospital chemical tests will never forget.

The Entry (24/09/05 - 10.30pm)

It was a great day, in fact a great week, I was looking forward to this weekend. Nothing special, nevertheless, just a night out to Sri Hartamas for a glass of wine and later to Soda, a popular nightclub in the area. Nothing could have forewarned me of the kind humiliation that was forthcoming.

Soda (25/09/05 - 12.00pm)

After my glass of wine, we made our way to Soda. Some friends of ours were there. We had a few whiskey cokes, enjoyed the music and the company. Until it was 2 in the morning.

The Raid (25/09/05 - 2.00am)

Came out from the toilet and and there was this policeman on the mic. It was a drugs bust he would proceed to say and that everybody cannot leave until all the urine samples were taken and tested. Fine I thought. No problem, just quickly take my urine and get it tested so I could go out and grab something to eat.

Problem is, there were a few hundred of us in the club and they did the test 10 at a time. From the time of the raid, it would end up taking them 2 ½ hours to clear all of us. They took all our identity cards and called us out 10 at a time.

Anyhow, my turn came and I did as instructed, urinated into the plastic container half full and handed them the container for ‘on-the-spot’ testing. They dropped in the instant drugs tester. Left it in the urine for about a minute and the results showed I was positive for 5 of the 6 tested drugs. I had my eye on my sample at all times. I thought this must be a mistake so naturally I remained calm.

I was then herded into a cordoned off area and had to wait till 7am for the police lorry to come pick us up. While waiting we were requesting for a second re-test as there was obviously a mistake. We were all denied a re-test.

We were told that our urine samples were to be taken to a hospital laboratory for conclusive drug tests.

The Pick Up (25/09/05 – 7.00am)

The lorry finally arrived at 7am after a long wait at the club, we were not told anything, we did not know what was going to happen. And when they did tell us what was happening to us, all of the policemen came out with different answers. With all the different answers flying around, it was as good as being perfectly ignorant.

Anyhow, we all got into the lorry. It was degrading because we are law abiding citizens who have never done anything more wrong than speeding on the highway. And here we are, being herded into a blue police lorry which is used for rounding up drug addicts and prostitutes as commonly seen in newspaper articles.

We arrived at the Kuala Lumpur police headquarters and made to sit on the floor until 11am. While we were there we were treated very rudely, there was even a policeman who threatened to beat up a fellow detainee. Mind you, we were all proved innocent in the end and these policemen in the narcotics department treated us like convicts and did not entertain any questions. We did not know our rights, we were not informed of our rights and the narcotics police took advantage of that.

We were later told to sign a document. When I tried to read the document I was told off by the narcotics policeman. ‘NO NEED TO READ THE DOCUMENT’ he said, JUST SIGN!! Still disbelieving what is happening to us and confident that this will all be settled by the afternoon, I signed the papers.

Till this day I still do not know what I signed.

At 11am we were again herded back into the blue lorry. I did not know where they were taking us this time.

Pudu Jail (25/09/05 – 11.00am)

The blue lorry brought us to Pudu Jail. The disused jail which will be demolished in a years time. This jail is over a hundred years old and has housed the worst of mankind. The murderers, rapists, drug dealers. This building was not built to house people like us. We, the model of society. Think of your saddest moment. Where your heart sinks and your spirit dies. This moment is equivalent.

Most of us were still in denial. We still thought that everything will be ok, that we’ll be out soon.

We were placed near the front of the prison, it was not yet inside, we were made to sit in rows of three. By this time it has been a full half day since we had anything to eat or drink. But none of us were hungry. Then a policeman showed up, a good Samaritan. He offered us some bread and water and proceeded to collect RM10 from all of us. That would mean RM200 +. He came back a half hour later, gave us each a pack of bread and a small bottle of water. Suddenly the angel became a devil. He had pocketed for himself about RM200. Even when we were in such a desperate condition, there are people who would do anything for money. This is no longer greed, his heart had turned black. Mind you, this is a policeman, the very people who are supposed to uphold the right and punish the wrong. The protector of justice, had just become a criminal. And he was walking free… in jail.

A few hours later we were placed in handcuffs. HANDCUFFS! Nobody knows how it felt. How to live your life the best you can and be treated this way. Imagine you son, or your most loved one in a handcuff, chained together with all the others and led out into the street, and you would understand what it felt. Now imagine that it was you.

We were herded once again into a lorry and brought to a magistrate.

The Magistrate (25/09/05 – 1 something pm)

The magistrate was in the Cheras police station, we were told there that there was no chance for bail because it was a Sunday and the court house was not open. I voiced my objections once again and requested for a re-test for obvious reasons. We were all told that the magistrate was powerless to act on anything. All they did was to read to us that we are suspected drug addicts and that we will be remanded (jailed) for 12 days until the court date or until bail was set. Which was Monday at the earliest.

These entire proceedings were held while we were all still in handcuffs and chained up together. I was later told that when I left the room the magistrate lady said… ‘all these rich kids, they are all like that’. Even the magistrate is blissfully ignorant of what is happening in front of her very own eyes, she has already concluded before any trial that we were ALL guilty.

The proceedings were over within an hour of arriving at the Cheras police station and we were once again herded into the blue police lorries.

Pudu Jail Revisited (25/09/05 – 2 something pm till the next day)

We are back in Jail. This time it was about 2 something or maybe 3pm. Shortly after we were called to sit on the prison pavement again, to wait for our prison clothes while it is being prepared. Names were called out individually. Each person was called into a room where each person took about 5-15 minutes each. This was to collect our prison clothes. It was simple yet it took so long. I didn’t know why until some of the accused came out of the room.

While in the room, the police offered a cigarette in apparent goodwill. So some of them took the offer. With such frayed nerves, anything is welcome to help take the pain away. After the accused took the cigarette, RM10 was taken out of their wallets. The policemen took the money in place of a single cigarette. A robbery had taken place, and the robbers were the policemen, and they were walking free… in jail.

Happened to so many of us. They couldn’t steal from me though. Simply because I had no cash and no belongings on me. I had passed them to Jack’s mother when she came earlier. So naturally they did not offer me a cigarette.

Prison clothes consisted of only a pair of track pants. Just a single piece. No shirt, no underwear was allowed and no shoes. We were to stay in prison with nothing else but the pants.

When we walked through the walkway into the main prison compound, we were in shock. All the prisons you have seen on TV is nothing compared to the horrid conditions of Pudu Jail. Everybody in prison was frail thin, bony. The only fat people were the policemen guarding the prison. We were told to put our belongings into a cell and leave them there, we were then made to one by one strip naked and made to do squats in front of all the other jail mates. I had never done anything wrong in my life, why was I being treated this way?!! It was degrading. It angered me.

After that was out of the way, we were put 6 in a cell, the cell hardly measured 2 meter by 3 ½ meters. There were no beds, there was no toilet, there was no ventilation. Just concrete walls and a concrete platform. If you wanted to urinate, you had to do it in a bottle inside the jail cell.

It was now almost 6pm and all we had for ¾ of a day was a small piece of bread and a small bottle of mineral water. Food finally came shortly after. It was indescribable. A pack of rice with a salted fish head measuring no more than 4cm and 2 pieces of vegetable no larger than a 50 cent coin. It was just meant to keep you alive. Just barely alive.

We just sat there for the remainder of our stay, being let out only to bathe and defecate 3 times a day for 10 minutes. Some took the situation worse than me. Somehow, the anger made me numb. So I joked and we talked, just to diffuse the situation and to allow ourselves to forget this experience.

Then there was more daylight robbery and corruption. We were told that our relatives could visit and that they could bring food and other condiments and supplies to us. FOR A PRICE. Yes… They were asking for money even in jail. RM150 must be paid to them so the items could be brought in. That does not however guarantee that the items will fully reach us. I had friends who’s relatives paid the police for the food stuff to be brought in. A whole bucket of KFC became only 3 pieces of chicken and a burger. Not only were the police corrupt, but they were sadistic and sick enough to eat the prisoner’s food. Why they were all fat is no longer a mystery.

Not only did we have to bribe them for the food, but a single phone call cost RM150, which must be paid by the visiting relative or friend. Jack got away with RM50, supposedly credited to the policeman’s pre-paid line by his mother. Somehow the policeman missed it and even dared to SMS Jack’s mother later on Monday night after we got out, asking ‘WHERE’S THE MONEY’. Not only was it daylight robbery, it was daring and I guess he must have felt invincible while wearing the police badge.

Take note that none of our parents or relatives were informed that we were being held. We had to personally call them.

We spent the night in prison, 6 to a cell sleeping on our bare backs on the cold damp concrete floor. The air was stale, there were other inmates yelling ‘TOLONG TOLONG’, it was a dreadful night. All we had was each other.

Night passed excruciatingly slowly and morning came.

Meanwhile : The Courthouse (26/09/05 – 8am)

Morning came and a large group of our parents, relatives and friends were waiting at the court house to bail us out. Most reached there very early and was informed that the bail documents would be out first thing in the morning. The bail documents only came out at 11am. And everybody was told that they have to open a bank account, deposit the bail money into the bank, make it back to the court house with all the paperwork in order by 12pm. That is exactly 1 hour. Everyone rushed to the bank, one single bank with only a few operational lines. The queue was very long and processing took forever. According to my loved ones, it was the most stressing time of their lives. Because if they did not make it back to the court house by 12pm, then I would have to stay another night.

A few ended up having to stay another night. Keep in mind that 22 of us were proven to be innocent by clinical tests. Yet some of these wrongly accused people had to spend 3 days and two nights in prison.

Personally I got out of the prison on Monday morning, my loved ones managed to bail me out in time. We put on our civilian clothes and was once again hand cuffed. Once again, my heart died and my soul withered. We were brought to the court house and I was sickened once again by the antics of the policemen.

We were in the van going by the heart of Kuala Lumpur when these two escorting policemen slid open the window and started whistling to a woman walking down the street. These are Malaysia’s policemen. And I am sickened to the bone.

We all reached the courthouse and led through the street still in handcuffs in full view of the public and our loved ones. Were told by the court that we are out on bail and given some documents that showed us where and when to collect the results of the hospital tests for our urine and when to show up in court again.

We were told to collect our blood test results from the Brickfields police station on the 2nd of October.

The Recovery (26/09/05)

I got out on the 26th of September 2005 afternoon on bail. I was driving past the Kuala Lumpur Twin Towers on at night and I thought to myself, it does not mean anything anymore. I used to be proud to be Malaysian, the twin towers used to be a source of pride. But now, all my nationalistic pride is gone, I had just been treated like a criminal by my very own country. A country which I loved… Used to love. I used to think that this country was beautiful. But now all I see is a country so currupted and so dirty. No amount of washing will clean away this feeling.

The Verdict (02/10/05)

Today, it was time to collect our results. We showed up at the Brickfields police station where 22 of us were pronounced clean and had to make our way to the court house. I asked for documentation stating we were clean. But the policemen at the police station said that there was no documentation and that they would call the court house to inform them. NO DOCUMENTATION, in an advanced economy like ours, this was unacceptable. Nevertheless, we all made our way to the court house and there we were proclaimed innocent and free to go. Again, I asked for documentation to state that we are cleared of all charges and that we were free to go. But there was NO DOCUMENTATION. No black and white. So technically, we had to trust the word of this court official which whom we do not know the name or rank.

The Anger (Now till justice is served)

All 22 of us will never be the same again. Malaysia will never be the same again. I was once a fun loving jovial person. Food no longer taste good, the sky seems perpetually cloudy, everybody I meet looks different. My girlfriend asked me if this will change me. I said maybe... And she cried.


Blogger earl-ku said...

stuff like this are shit to happen man!

a friends wife was into this shit a few week back , she was in there for like almost a week

11:03 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

sighz...malaysian police SUCK!

That's all that I can say...

12:34 PM  
Blogger nadia said...

corruption is a top-down disease. its gotta be stopped at the top, then more tax payers moeny can be put to good use (instead of on parties for MPs, or on pay-off money for tenders,or on highways tt make no sense) in raises for our govt servants (eg policemen) allowing less necessity for them to be corrupted and as money-pilfering. sad to hear bout your story; but nothing can be done for now =(

5:42 PM  
Blogger metalflux said...

omfg... in malaysia... is all about the money ain't it... the people's mindset and integrity is so corruptted .. not only that.. the country's foundation is bias and racist in the first place. we need a radical change soon... thing is just gonna get a whole lot more Worst

5:58 PM  
Blogger ben said...

the behaviour of the police is actually no different from the gangsters except they have the licence to do so. hope u recover soon.

6:20 PM  
Blogger groosome said...

hv u not make a report against these scumbags? am sure with 22 other ppl u guys stand a good chance in ridding the streets of these dirt.

6:27 PM  
Blogger thefirstChristmas said...

I'm sorry you had to go through such humiliation. All for nothing. I sincerely hope that your account here will prove useful to perhaps finally stop this nonsense that goes on in our country. It makes me sick.

I wish you luck.

6:59 PM  
Blogger Lone said...

Hope you recover from the whole ordeal soon. From my experience not all polis are bad, there are good ones too. Take comfort in that.
As for what you and the other 22 have experienced, maybe you might want to get together, approach some lawyers who are interested in helping wipe out polis corruption and abuse and see what can be done. The 22 of you certainly would be a force to reckon with. It won't be so easy for those lousy members of the force to get away with it.
Just having this blog means you are already taking the first step in your journey to make Malaysia better. :)

7:06 PM  
Blogger sandhill said...

Really sorry about your experience and glad that you took the time to share it with us.

Funny thing is that we read about these raids all the time in the press, but don't really pay much attention to how badly and unfairly the system treats people.

This kind of shit happens all the time in the country but the media is not interested in reporting it. At least you were able to articulate the gory details of your experience..

Only positive thing to say abt your experience is that it could have been a lot worse...

7:06 PM  
Blogger Dangerous Variable said...

I am sad... just too bad! Policemen from a developing world with 3rd world mentality.

7:25 PM  
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7:30 PM  
Blogger Harm said...

Yes people. Saying that we should stop this by taking action,bla,bla is easy. But who really want to help them to do it? Not me, I'm not that strong.


7:39 PM  
Blogger democracy4now said...

You all should organise to fight the police procedure of putting pub cutomers into lock-up while testing their urine for drugs. This is punitive and degrading. The most they can do shold be just to take your urine sample on the spot. Please get some legal counsel to explore taking the police to court-may put a stop to this abuse of power once and for all for all pub-goers !

7:45 PM  
Blogger raymondevil said...

i feel for you. i honestly do.. probably i don;t know how is it like to stay in jail but i can feeel the same thing u felt when u;re so helpless that moment. one thing says all.. police in malaysia sucks! they are not helpful in anyway. all they care is about corruption and getting money into their personal pocket.

7:49 PM  
Blogger su ann said...

hey, the exact same shit happened to one of my immediate family members a couple months ago. i sympathize. i'm glad you took the time to write about it and share it with others who dont know about such situations going on in our country.

7:49 PM  
Blogger K. Ghulam said...

I felt for you man... though not to the extreme that you have experienced, it did happen to me once while riding my motorcycle along jalan Travers. They had a road block where all motorcyclists passing that road were herded into the police station compound until it was full to the brim. We were not told of anything but I think they were trying to identify stolen motorcycles. In the long process innocent road users like most of us were detained against our will for inspection of our motorcycles, IC, licence and road tax from 8.00 pm till past midnight. I had not had my dinner and so was many of us and were very hungry and angry. Most if not all was released without even an apology. I saw a man's wife and a baby crying in her arms pleading to the policeman that the baby needs to be fed. Her pleads were ignored.

This is the kind of police gangsterism we have in Malaysia. That moment onwards, I have no faith in the Police and that was 25 years ago when they were relatively better than today!


8:03 PM  
Blogger Boy said...

I certainly do not believe that there's anything we can do to change the situation in the country. NEVER.

So the next best thing is - leave. No wonder so many people are going away. And never coming back.

By nature, I am a fighter. I do not give up easily, in almost all that I do. But when it comes to this, I certainly think that the situation has gone out of hand, way way out. So, instead of wasting my energy trying to change a country's law and order (if any!), I will focus my energy to try to work towards the direction of moving out to somewhere where we can feel safer.

8:05 PM  
Blogger Stanley-MNG said...

The same thing happen to my brother on that faithful day. Mistreated, humiliated, hand-cuffed and all that crap, its really saddening that this is the "real" face behind our police force. You were lucky to got out on Monday, I only manage to get my brother on Tuesday, like your relatives I waited at the courthouse on Monday morning, I almost spend the whole day waiting. The police were really no help, I couldnt locate my brother, I called up the Brickfield station, Pudu Jail and they just keep pointing their fingers at each other, no one can tell me where my brother was exactly. I sought the help from my bro's friend, finally we found him at Pudu Jail, but by then, it was too late to bail him out.

8:10 PM  
Blogger moorey said...

Sorry to hear your plight. Those pigs.

8:32 PM  
Blogger n.emator said...

How can they deny a re-test?

Is it logical that someone can test positive for 5 out of 6 drugs, and still remain standing?

How can they force you to sign something without letting you read it?

How can they waste 2.5 hours of everyone's time just so they can test everyone including the innocent?

Are these people supposed to protect us?

Don't we pay their salaries, facilities, training and everything through the taxes we hard-working people pay?

Do they still expect us to sign "Negaraku"?

It should be "Negaramu. Ambil baliklah. Kalau ada chans, saya akan ke negara lain."

8:38 PM  
Blogger Old Fart said...

You want another reality check? this was not reported in NST or Utusan Melayu or Berita Harian oor The Star or RTM or TV3, so it means it never happened. What you have mentioned is malicious and false and you have made an allegation that has no merit at all. You can be found guilty for all of that just like Irene Fernandez was for reporting false news and lowering the dignity of the Malaysian Police Force and Malaysia and the Barisan Nasional government. Right now, since there is no documentation in your possession you cannot even prove that you were inside any police station or even the Pudu Jail.

And if you think by positing it here they cannot track you down...thnk again baby. The most juniour cop will be able to tell that you are one of those who got bailed out on Monday. You are also one of those who did not get yourself a cigarette. You are also one of those who was eventually not even charged. Now tell me it is going to be too difficult to trak you down and charge you for all of this?

you want to fuck around, don't fuck around with the Malaysian Police okay, they can get away with Francis Udayapan and any other Indian guy's murder and they almost got away with the infamous black think you going to make any difference. If you really meant what you said you would have named names..maybe even sneak around adn take pictures of these cops you say who stole money from you can't do that ..then just don't bother wasting your time.

8:42 PM  
Blogger n.emator said...

old fart: you seem to be attacking this blogger and asking him to shut up.

I do personally know an ex-schoolmate who was detained and treated shabbily, although not as extreme here.

It's your kind of attitude that makes these situations keep happening. To keep quiet and to ignore evil is to be part of evil. Why should this blogger be a coward like you. You shut up.

9:02 PM  
Blogger n8210 said...

If there is any need for assistance or help, count me in. I for one will stand up and do something. I will not let this countinue and let it happen to others. Imagine one day IF it is you, or your loved ones. It would be too late then. Do something now~!!

9:29 PM  
Blogger reuel said...

yeah, emphatize with ya not surprised at ur story, coz this sorta thing aint new....n to mr oldfart,which btw is an appropiate name i guess for him...ppl like u dun help the situation in any way what so ever...
dude,find some lawyers n try to sue their butts, if possible....its a longshot yeah, but at least u can have the satisfaction(if i may term it as such) of trying....
last year my bro was involved in a car accident n the beginning the cops 'seemed' to be very considerate n the beginning.....they acknowledged tt it was the other persons fault....they told us verbally...but then for almost a year, they did not release the report, as they wanted us to bribe them to give us a "favourable" report.....we didnt pay them a's why it took soo long....only after contacting some ppl who knew some other ppl(u know like the mafia kinda thing), i guess these officers got screwed up by their superiors or something...then only the report came was a real hassle n a strain on my parents, as they had to travel quite some distance to the police station which was out of our district, but more so an emotional strain too.....yeah, there are some good cops, but they r a minority sadly....try highlighting ur story in the papers....see if they'll publish it..

10:01 PM  
Blogger Sharizal said...

bro this is serious.. email me to see what we can do

10:05 PM  
Blogger Sarah said...

I am absolutely saddend reading ur plight mate.. As I am sitting in a cold balmy room while typing this message, it just convinced me why i gave up on my country..

10:54 PM  
Blogger iwannaeatporkchoptonight said...

I'm so sorry to hear what you went through. I went through something similar 6 years ago. My friends and I JUST reached a nightclub and got pulled in. I was taken to the police station for drug test and although they didn't do anything to us but I saw with my own eyes, how they treated other 'suspects'. It broke my heart and I wish I did something to defend them... I'm really sorry to hear this and I hope that you won't give up being true to yourself and the people you love just because of this. It's no trivial matter and my heart goes out to you. I can only remind myself that Jesus went through a worse ordeal complete with utter humiliation and all but He gained victory in the end. So will you :) God bless.

11:21 PM  
Blogger euiko@queenie said...

no anymore hope to malaysia.. felt bad to heard a friend run into those unbelievable situation. can't even imagine if i was the one..
malaysia been shame by those public enemy. it's obviously a dirty country.

11:34 PM  
Blogger dark empyrean said...


the paper you sign is a non disclosure, non sue for harrasment. If you are proven guilty, you are basically helpless as they will ask you where you buy drugs from. And I mean "ask".

You ciggie was RM10. That was rather reasonable. Try Sepang Police, Ciggies is RM 50, Bucket is 200.

How I know all this shit. My people has been there.

11:58 PM  
Blogger Jimmie Cho said...

i'm truly saddened by what u had gone thru...thanks for sharing ur story...didnt know how corrupted our polices are till i read ur experience

life still goes on...

12:26 AM  
Blogger Blu3_Wav3 said...

hey guyz, seen tat every1 r not happy about Old Fart, but wat he told tat got some of the point there! without any prove how u gonna win it? every1 here r very disappointed wat kind of policemen we have in our country, but i belive tat it is not only happen in malaysia.
wanna win, u got to have a strong supported pwr bhind u, such as goverment, politician or some1 who is very rich and powerful. but unfortunately most of them r ONE OF THEM, or the result u get is WHO R U? AND WHY SHOULD I HELP U...
will, humans r always thinking for own benafit, except u found those minor majority tat will really can help u.
i pray and i belive in god, but in the end i found out human still is human.
last i like to say sorry to those poeple who dont like wat i had said here.


12:37 AM  
Blogger aspiringsufi said...

Do not let the injustice break you. What you are doing is correct. Tell everybody that will listen about your ordeal. Hopefully more and more people will tell their story and make noise and the govt is forced to take action. If you can come out of this experience a stronger,wiser and better person then you won. You can look back and said I went through a bitter experience and I did not let it break me down. It is the only way for your life to go on or the bitterness will surely eat you up. The only way to console yourself is to compare yourself to others in worst situation. Anwar Ibrahim comes to mind.

12:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will go on and on and on as it has done in the past and the police will keep getting away with this rubbish simply because no one stands up to them.
You have a perfect right to seek redress for the trauma you went through.
The question is will you do it.
If you don't stand up to this terrorism it will never stop.
Get a lawyer. All 22 of you, unless you have something to hide you are not sharing with us. There are enough lawyers out there who will be only too glad to assist.
Do something about this!!Do it now !!

1:48 AM  
Anonymous zorro said...

Too much talk. The least 22 of you should do is to organise yourself, and march up to the PM. Until u guys do something, your blogging is futile. If all this is true, I am for the 22 of you.

1:49 AM  
Blogger Old Fart said...

n.emator & Others who think I attacked this dude.

What I wrote is unfortunately what is practiced in Malaysia and based on what has been practiced o.k. Just ask yourself why he ends up with no evidence of his 2 days of hell. He will find it almost impossible to prove everything that he said.

This experience written about a friend of mine went through way back in the early 1970s....once again no proof of anything you just drop it. But that is reality. Until we are prepared to not only name them, but we take pictures and whatever...then maybe soemthing can happen....or if one of these days they pick up someone like Khairy Jamaluddin thinking he is a no body then maybe somehting will happen...otherwise....just join UMNO la then you can rape the country for all you care and no one will be any the wiser.

If you want my sympathy as everyone else is giving....I guess I am fresh out....given away too much for these kinds of happenings....Just than your lucky starts you were not an Indian dressed in a certain way or having a certain look cause then the chances of fishing you out of the Klang River would be higher.

1:59 AM  
Blogger Jeremy C said...

Fuck, man. I really feel for you. I just hope no one else has to go through that horrid experience.

2:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't feel depressed. What you went through happens every week-end in the Klang Valley, either to pub goers or illegal gamblers. Normally it's the weekend in order to squeeze you for $$$ when your friends and relatives visis you at the police station.
What the others paid is quite cheap, I had a group of friends caught for football betting who paid almost 5k for 9 visits over 3 days. They were even allowed to shower once a day.
Do not attempt to sue them. Take the road of least resistance. Migrate if you are able to or seek employment overseas.

3:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't think words of comfort from a stranger would do much but i certainly hope you do feel better soon. don't let those damned idiots rob you from your loved ones.

4:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All i can say is this -

Unless you have the same colour on your skin.. those f**king idiots will continue to run down the whole country..

Let's just all move to singapore..
And leave this country in the trenches..

4:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

old fart, another good picture of what a stereotypical malaysian would be: a racist.

and hey, well we all know we can't do shit against the system/country/gov. so wtf. at best, what we can do is LEAVE THE COUNTRY!

4:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

such a shame that such sad fucking stuff like this happen in malaysia. Goverment ain't doing anything, fuck those ppl.. i rather live in singapore than this stinking country

5:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m one of the victims of this shit. Every time I go out and I sight a policeman, I feel threaten. I feel like the have the license to do anything to you, particularly ruin your life.
What happened to the times when the community is supposed to feel safe in the presence of a policeman? I’m sure a lot of people feel the same that police are out of control.
There is no policing of policemen, something should be done. They have no one to fear, they have the license to be thugs and criminals.
I swore to myself that if I was tested positive for drugs the second time, ill dedicate my life to ruining the country police force. Probably go on a killing spree on the corrupted police. This is the reason why non-Malays are not patriotic. May I add that out of the 22 of us caught, none of them were Malays? I saw tones of muslims in the club that night and none of them were detained, why is that so? Just because it wasn’t a syariah raid, doesn’t mean they can’t detain them. Why should we ever be patriotic if crap like this happens to us? I don’t really feel proud to be a citizen of Malaysia anymore. Thank God I’m leaving this God Damned country.

5:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

isn't it a surprise that policemen in malaysia are mostly malays? so called muslims? hidup melayu!

5:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

at the first place ... i dont really feel pity about u guys ...

U said, u as a "MODEL" of the society .... ? you should be stronger than what I think u would be !!!

compare to other million out there which are living in poverty, having diseases that they are not suppose to have ...

maybe becoz u have only visited sri hartamas and Pudu jail and not been into the earthquakes of Pakistan .... and u think u had experienced it all ... you dont know how the real "sufferings" are .... your case is not a big issue ....

Please, try to appreciated the freedom you have NOW and make a better FUTURE out of yourself ...

6:04 AM  
Blogger abettermalaysia said...

Dear Anonymous,

I'm very sorry, though you were there with me (I'm not sure who you are) but racism is another trait we need to abolish from our country!

I will not associate myself with you in any way and I am contemplating deleting your post. I thank you for your support but racism is not the issue here!

I have many malay and muslim friends whom I've known for a very long time. They are also people who want to see Malaysia become a better place. They are our brothers and sisters and I will not tolerate racism on this blog.

From now on, all racists comments will be deleted.

You should be ashamed.

6:19 AM  
Anonymous eujin said...

i've read over your incident and its totally unacceptable to allow the police to get away with such an event. it's true that there would be no benefit in suing our country's sad police force.

but then again, maybe a letter to our local newspapers would help create awareness to others who frequent clubs.

shit happens and what had happened to you is pure torture. do something about it to gain back some of your pride. our country is not all about the corrupted police force.

6:27 AM  
Blogger desiderata said...

Hi brudder/sister in Group22:

I join Lone and Zorro in supporting any effort you people plan to initaite ACTION. I am sure with unity and some brain storming, we'll ovecome these stormtroppers before they make Malaysia into a full polce state as it's now already 1/2 or 3/4.

I'm with you people before it's too latte. Let's get started -- Blogsworld of civilized Malaysians will stand by you.

Just keep us informed of any initiative. "May God&Right Be With You All 22!"

6:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its not easy to find a country totally free of corruption. Its a matter of the degree of seriousness in the matter. =)

To take up a confronting role will surely mean that u have to kinda suffer, through all the law procedure kinda stuff... u noe?

but should u be detered by this? I say it depends on how much u view this injustice. U love your country... yes... u do... and now tat u know tat its not wat u thought it to be, are u gonna walk away from it? Den wat is ur love? What do you mean when u say u love ur country? To walk away from it when it is sick?

I say, a true malaysian who loves his country will strive to commit his effort to change the country for the better! Those who left the country, dun consider urself as giving up on "Malaysia". What u guys are giving up are only those culprits... u still have alot of other loving memories of your country... the people... the places... =)

In a nutshell, to fight for what u believe in will have a price to pay for. Just do what u believe in but think hard before u act. Tink hard before u decide to leave, to take actions, to keep quiet... Tink hard on wat u missed out on if u carried out wat u want to do.

All the best in ur future actions. I would really love to see a Malaysia that has changed for the better. Even better if... if its due to YOUR actions. =)

Take care~!!! =P

6:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey man, i know how u feel. I was in a similar situation myself. I know how it feels to walk in your shoes. The malaysian police are a bunch of muthafcukin corrupt pigs. They treat people with no respect and no justice, even when they are innocent or have not been proven guilty. It is no wonder that this mentality is preventing our country from ever being great, respected or worthy of anything. And with respect to 'old fart': SHUT THE FUCK UP you FUCKIN FUCK. What the fuck do you know? You know shit, You jack ass. For your information, the dude is innocent. You fuckin dumb, blind or just plain fucked up? U cant read? The test were negative. That means no drugs. That means he was treated like s dog for NO reason. You want to be treated like a dog for no reason? Maybe u are a sadistic fuck and you like it. But for the rest of us beg to differ. So what use is it telling the guy that he cant do anything bout it? That he shud be scared. Scared of what? Being innocent? You blame him for not doing anything bout it, are you? Since u must be pro-corruption. Why dont u go and stop this shit or stand up to it? U dont have the balls. at least this guy suffered thru it. Be a man bitch. You are the one who needs a reality check. Bitch-ass old cunt.

7:51 AM  
Blogger -[aLbY]- said...

It's really pathetic to be read by everyone regarding to your blog pal. I've not much to say but i pretty agree with what the majority commented which that every country do have corruptions too but in terms of how serious is it going to be. By now, about your case, i'm sure if you could write it to ALL of the newspaper company has in Malaysia to post up your story for the 22 of the victim's right! Please do so if you mean to reveal the truth to everyone outside the world although you've no documentation regarding to this matter. I'll support no matter how! Goodluck and never give up of your life due to this matter aight! Take care & all the best of luck.


8:01 AM  
Anonymous bayi said...

my son's friend, a clean-cut guy who was an accountant with a reputable accounting firm, was apprehended for drugs and detained in a jail because he happened to be watching my son play snooker when a police conducted a raid. he was taking cough syrup for a cough and the police refused to accept the doctor's prescription. guess what he thinks of the police now? even my son thinks the police are incorrigible.

8:10 AM  
Blogger Stanley-MNG said...

oldfart, your very wrong, IT WAS IN THE PAPERS, look up The Star just a few day after the incident, but it was just reported as "just another nightly police raid". read it first, get your facts right bfore commenting.

8:29 AM  
Blogger abettermalaysia said...

Interestingly, it was in the papers, just not my account of what happened. I did not know there was an article in the star but there was an article in the Malay Mail. I'm not sure how to post a picture here, but I'll put it as my profile picture. Took a picture of it while I was at the lawyer's office a few days after I got out.

Later, I'll try to get the paper from my fellow detainee to scan and post.

8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im sorry for what has happened my friend. I hope you recover well. Im sure we have a fair share of experiances. I met a former *** detainee 2 years back, i know how it feels & it is sad.

This seems to be routine, In the sense that the operation mode, the tactics & events are almost identical.

1. Weekend bust
2. You were taken to custody with nonsense test, (a doctor friend of mine questioned on the methods used at that instant, they refused to answer)
3. You were taken to jails with hectic timelines to your love ones.
4. Finally, its the money, you must pay every time something needs to be done.
5. You were forced to sign a document without reading.
6. You are free to go without charge because you are innocent.
7. Almost no documentation.

From this, the only thing I could deduce is extortion or trying to prove they are actually doing something.

One thing for sure, old fart is right indirectly, you make things worse if you go against them, they are NOT after you, they are just after money & their so called quota. In other words, dont make it personal.

also dont expect a low paid you-know to be honest & trustworthy, while they are many whom I sincerely admire, those that you mentioned will always tarnish the force in general.

please get some legal advise & for your sake I hope you signed "I AM FORCED TO SIGNED THIS" as it might be turned against you, signing on a blank paper is worse. Make a report that you signed an unauthorised document & anything you signed within that date should be invalid.

take care & hope for the best.


9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that was not a racist remark. And yes i do have muslim friends just like you which i grew up together who wish malaysia was a better place. I speak better malay than most of my friends and i talk to them quite often. im just questioning why out of all the people they caught, none of them were malay?
can you answer that question?we were so innocent to being there and the muslims in the clubs were the comparitively guilty ones isnt it?and why werent any of them detained?
can you answer that?

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i once had my special edition sg FHM ripped open while the custom officer browsed thru it while drooling.. colleagues ard him started smiling .. then he told me FHM is not allowed into msia..
really, really, no praises for the msian police force..

9:26 AM  
Blogger Audrey said...

The first reaction upon reading this: OMG...

Seriously, I felt sorry for you, maybe you can do something about it, forward this blog to the political parties or something, at least if you make it a big enough issue they will actually look into it. I will help too.

10:02 AM  
Blogger abettermalaysia said...

Dear Anonymous,

This blog is not about conspiracy theories. It is about what happened to us. Anything that I do not know and am not sure is not posted here. Thanks for the post, but seriously, how do you know they were guilty? You saw people take drugs? You are going to offend a lot of our malay and muslim brothers who were as innocent as we were.

Don't judge people like that 'anonymous', it happened to us, and you should have learnt from that experience.

10:21 AM  
Anonymous babydee said...

I do hope that ure alright. Stay strong. And it isnt worth changing yourself because of what had happened. And thanks for sharing this with others. It can save many other innocent people. Take care

11:38 AM  
Blogger -PuPu^ZaPruD3r- said...

Hey, sorry to read the trouble u had to go through that nite. I was there too. This was the second time I experienced a police raid. The last time was at Emporium a few years back. Was enjoying myself until the lights all came on suddenly and the music stopped. Then policemen came in and wanted to do a drug-test. The police weren't very efficient and quite rude too. Saw a guy getting handcuffed by the police very roughly. My friend said he either fought with the police or was a drug-seller. Anyway, to cut the long story short, my friends all had to go for the urine test in a group, eventhough he is the son of a VIP. But luckily, I manage to go through the backdoor without doing the urine test as my friend knows the bouncers very well. Thank GOD for that. I never go to Soda after that. It was my first and last time there. I prefer to go to Atmosphere where there isn't any raids at all..

11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, maybe suhakam can give an exposure?

11:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ,i feel sorry for you man..I always knew this kind of shit is happening in Malaysia..

12:21 PM  
Blogger 黄德峻 said...

sorry to hear that

1:03 PM  
Anonymous Beef Stew said...

I second what old fart said. It is a "sad but truth" situation. And I am pretty darn sure that this (the blog) is the furthest you can go. Life's a bitch, buddy... I mean Malaysia-Under-The Current-Police-Forces's life. To those who are working hard to earn money, give your best shot cause this is the best time and save it up for S'pore or Australia or somewhere. Superficial-Only-To-Be-Shown-In-Public-Media-Politically-Induced First class Citizen or a A-country-where-their-police-offer-you-a-ride-to-the-police-station-and-give-you-a-coffee-without-charging-you-anything-for-the-sake-of-sober-you-up-and-then-set-you-free-if-the-alcohol-indicator-shows-the-save-level Second-Class-Citizen. It's you choice. Malaysia Boleh!

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jus slap their face with pork!

4:25 PM  
Blogger Old Fart said...

Annonymous (7.51am) ...You need to improve your English..that is all that I got to say to you. You absolutely misconstrued the intent of my post..the first one that is....anyway that is what happens when you let your arse do the thinking for you...or maybe as some say "space" is that part of your head that lies between your ears.

Stanley -MNG, so after reading what you read in The Star, did you think indifferently or did you think as revoltingly about it as you do now after reading bettermalaysia's writing? The STar left you with one impression that certainly is not the same as what is left here is it? So tell me, has this version here been reported so that the image left in your head is the same?

4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have u guys ever wondered why this is the first time we’re hearing about this thing?? There have been so many police raids in night clubs previously, so what happened to those people??!! I’m sure that abettermalaysia is not the first and won’t be the last to be succumb to this kind of unjust treatment. Why hasn’t anyone written or spoken up before??!! When have we become such a “tolerable” society?? Maybe the pengetahuan moral we took in high school is finally paying off, sikap bertoleransi.

Most of you are asking abettermalaysia to “do something”. But maybe instead of asking someone to do something, why not ask ourselves what can we do??

And to those who think that clubbers are spoilt brats and trouble makers, please do not be so quick to judge us. Just because we drink, it doesn’t make us alcoholics, just because we party, it doesn’t make us hooligans and just because we go to night clubs, it doesn’t mean we take drugs.

4:42 PM  
Blogger Old Fart said...

Cops like weekend raids simply because they can keep you over for one/two nights. I had a situation where I wanted to set up an arrest of a con man in the morning. But the cop told me to defer it to later at night so that the guy could be held over night and processed the next day....mind you the timing was only for that reason and nothing else. So I guess your misery was basically also to fulfill that same sadistic need they seem to have.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Malaysia were to be progress, the goverment servant especially policeman must have good moral. Most of the people i known lost hope to goverment servant.

6:46 PM  
Blogger Stanley-MNG said...

oldfart, maybe u din notice my first post, it happened to my brother, i was the one who went n bail him out, i had to go from the courthouse to the brickfields police station, back to the courthouse n later a fren went to the pudu jail to locate my brother. later when he got out on tuesday, he told me his experiences, the things they did from the begining of the raid. as for the report on the papers, it was just reported "as another nightly raid in sri hartamas". you think they would actually go into every detail? or even get comments from the detainees?

6:51 PM  
Anonymous red said...

thanks for sharing what happened i never thought it would be that bad. that sux.

after reading your last few lines in your record of the incident, i hope other than changing your view and feelings towards the country or the police/justice departments, you can retain your good ol' personality instead of letting the incident to affect you too much. don't let anger turns into grudge, that will ruin your life.

all the best to you.

7:31 PM  
Blogger Daneg Sulu said...

POlice controls the pimp, the VCD, DVD peddlers, the gangsters and everybody else they can get their hands on.

Maybe some kind of assasination of police should take place in our country.

7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad man. Just don't go to these places anymore and protect yourself. Have you contact the ACA or newspaper editor?

8:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel your pain man. I was in longer than you but gone through the same shit. Money runs inside. You can have whatever you wan inside with money. Dont worry you will get over it. Unless each of you 22 stand up and speak up, nothing much can done alone. Take care aighttt...

8:35 PM  
Anonymous 星空の語 said...

signz! malaysia police man really suck!

i am sad about your situation! :(

8:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi abettermalaysian,

It seems that your judgement now are clouded by anger .... I support what "Red" gotta say.

whatever ppl say in this blog might "motivate" u to do some action.

Kindly be very careful of what u are planning to do ... your anger can be channel towards a positive side or towards a destructive end...

I hope that you wont be circling in an endless loop over this incident ...

Let the past be the past ... you are now very hurt and are you sure that wound of yours can be cured by what u r doing now ?

Please ... think carefully before u do anything ...

Thanks ...

8:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i seriously think the blog owner should forward this blog to the anti-corruption agency. Probably make it more offcial but with the same conter maybe translated in malay?

how bout forwarding it to the star and the PMs office?probably you can ask the editor of the star to write a follow up with referral to this blog.

8:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah! you are right! submit to ACA before the blog being deleted

9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forwarding it to the media and ACA? No point - they'll probably be the point to point the police at you and throw you to jail again..
Maybe the media can help..

Abettermalaysia, i read your comment to anonymous (another guy, not me) about racism.
The thing is, i also have many malay friends - most feeling that the the special rights needs to be done with. And most of them agree so.

And looking at the way the police, education system and government protecting these rights makes me even more sick.

At first it was the quota system. You think that was bad? then came the merit system and you'll hear crap stories about how a bunch of indian straight A's student not accepted into university..

The problem is not that chinese and indians are racist. It's mostly the 'power holders', police which are racist. Look at singapore, the malays there are advanced, innovative and productive. Look at the ones here, dependant, unreliable, corrupt.

I agree that Not all of them are like that. And it is those that i respect and eventually become my friends.

It is sad because even after so many years of independance, they still feel insecure about the chinese and indians and often these are the 2 races for not patriotic and not wanting to join the police force.

The problem is not really the corruption and mistreat of club-goers. It is the way the police view other races. If they persist on seeing other races as they do now, I would dare say I prefer the British Divide and Rule policy. Makes live easy.

9:14 PM  
Anonymous jonathan said...

is the malaysian police really that pathetic? i mean not all but i think the majority are that pathetic. im not a local but after hearing this i sure as hell would not wanna visit m'sia anymore man. i totally detest corruption and if i were mistreated in my own country(which is highly impossible), i will definitely do something about it and im sure the media would be more than happy to expose the acts of those retarted police officers. and when done, many more will come forward with their encounters with the corrupted and hell, the m'sia police force would be in deeeeep shit. i totally sympathise with ya dude.

9:40 PM  
Anonymous Edde said...

You are cool enough to tell everyone of us your experience. Well Done! Yet, I think something can be done. SOmeway somehow. You really intend to put away these corrupted asshole, then even if you have to blow up your pocket, you've gotta do it. Think again!!

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If what you related is fact and you stand true to your testimony here, you should seek audience with the IGP and also speak with the press. In the end, truth shall prevail.

10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i sympathize with you. i was in the same situation. i was caught in the zouk raid that happened earlier in the year. i have experienced the same thing you did, and i was the last person bailed out. the thing is, its not about racism.. this is what happens when malaysians are put in a position of power. they abuse it. should you feel that you want to stand up to the corruption, i will support you 110%. i'm malaysian too, i believe our country has the potential to be great, i believe its up to the citizens themselves to make sure that it becomes that.

10:49 PM  
Anonymous yamsgotlaid said...


I feel for you. But remember, what don't kill you, makes you stronger. If there's one thing i know about life, it's this, life is a bitch!

I read through all the comments posted, everyone has a point, whether negative or positive, they all have their truths, therefore i agree with all of them to a degree. It’s just that we each have our own experiences, thus our own conclusions.

I'm malay and my late grandpa retired a high ranking and very distinguished police officer. I only got to know him during my summer vacations when i returned to M'sia to visit relatives, and was lucky enough to listen to his tales of bravery, his award from the Agong, observe his many medals and his awesome sword. At the time, innocent as i was, i admired the police force.

But reality kicked in after returning to M'sia when my late father passed. Let's just say… that’s when I got on life’s turbulent rollercoaster ride. And with that, my fair share of experiences with the police, and one thing i agree with it’s not just the police, but almost every authority in M'sia that is corrupt, but mind you, it is usually among the low ranking, low paid ‘fuckers’. When it happens to the highly paid, well… that’s just greed and it happens everywhere in the world.

And guess what, racism isn't the only factor behind their corruption, it really just comes down to prejudice. They might be bias to other races, but they also envy people more fortunate then they are. And that my friend is where you came in. One of the previous comments mentioned this before, but it’s true, they were just out to make a quick buck, that’s how they make extra money, the same with all low ranking officers from other authorities in M’sia. I mean, I had to learn this the hard way, but to fight the corrupted, is to be corrupt. My brother and I have had our share of encounters with the authorities. And being street smart really helps. Though you might not be able to do it alone, knowing how these ‘fuckers’ think or want, can be the difference between heaven and hell.

Being muslim, i do however believe in karma, and well… if they don’t get it now, they’ll suffer on judgement day. As for now, writing your blog is a step to getting these ‘fuckers’ a taste of their own medicine. A second step would be to hire lawyers or probably go straight to the ACA and make a formal complaint. Last resort would be to get an audience with the PM, if he feels for you, as do most of us, then M’sia will see a change. Malaysia Boleh! And good luck to you dude, life must go on :)

1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that you are surprised at this mate. Things like this happen every single day in Msia for decades. Not a single soul has done anything about this. New PM Abdullah says he is Mr Anti-Corruption, well ask him to speak to my ass. All politicians and cops are the same. Golden promises for 1 year, devil's dick for the rest of eternity.

Malaysia has always been unfair and will always be unfair, that is what makes it go round. If that were to happen to me, I would be able to walk out immediately because of who I am, but mainly WHO I KNOW. That's just crap isn't it.

The only way Msia will ever change is when our own goverment has thrown out corruption, and starts paying our hard earned tax dollars to the goverment servants, police, army etc... what the hell u expect a police officer to feed his family of a dozen kids and 4 wives with RM1,200 a month??? Our goverment needs to start recruiting agents and ministers fairly, and not just cause they are Bumis. Fuck the Bumi nonsense. Should they have preference cause of skin colour and therefore superiority in both the goverment and police bodies?

On another note, we have to play our role and stop bribing and doing other nonsensical things. We are feeding this kind of corrupted mentality each time we hand RM100 to a dick in blue (cop) so we don't get a speeding ticket. you speed, pay for it! i'm sure u can afford it since u paid for your crapped up satria turbo with 17" rims and a mama or momo steering right?

Start with the goverment, start with ourselves. The rest is downhill from there.


1:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW, I would just like to clarify that by Bumi nonsense I do not mean the people. I meant the IDEALOGY that one race should have preference over others.

I'm sure we can all agree that only with equality and justice in presence, only than can Msia ever even think of moving into the major leagues and declare ourselves a 1st world country.

Where i am, i can give a cop the middle finger, hell i can fart on him and he can't do anything but walk away. I'm not saying to go and do that just cause you can, but try even talking back to a cop in Msia and see what happens. Hell, don't talk, just stare at him in the face.

Ever wonder why most of us have yet to see a chinese cop on patrol?

Will we ever see an Indian police commisioner in our life time?

Can there ever be a Prime Minister that isn't Bumi?

Does toilet paper and stationary really cost RM10,000 to the goverment? Where have all our tax payer's money gone to? You can't expect to fight corruption without the $$$ to back it up and fund the fight.

just my 2cents


1:50 AM  
Anonymous jay said...

hei dude, its really an experience there for you n i know that u are really hurt . i have been there like you , everything, n i undestand what ur current state are ., but hey come on ,how long have u walked the soils of malaysia , how long have u been a malaysian ????!? .. dun tell me u know nuthing bout corruption man ! .. this is it , dun sound as if u have faced devil himself . u sound as if it had entirely taken out ur life over for this . omg ! .. are u a man .. face it ... bare it .. its an experience n u gotta learn from it. As if it happens the 2nd time , here's a tip , when the polis ask for u iD .. say that u had pass to the polis up front .. n hold on to ur ID like mad . till end of the cheking time the ID will b ur passport out of the club . no worries , me n my gang had been doing that for more then 3 times n its really useful , as the polis in town are dumb ass stupid plus lazy . tell ur friends bout it .. its useful ! . Cheers Dude , anyway .. Malaysia is really a PARTY nation ! . There is no other place like HEre

2:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is really a sad story.. This is a really dissapoinment towards the Malaysia's government and the polive force. The group of force who were suppose to be the protecter of the citizens, yet it became the Devil follower~!

My friend shared a story with me recently. He was driving home from mamak with a few friends of his near Kelana Jaya area, unfortunately he was stopped by the police. He was suspected as an underage driver with no license. The police hailed him out of the car and instructed him to lie to the floor along with the other friends. Without a single warning, the policemen gave him a hard kick towards his stomache, that led him to internal bleeding and disfunctional organs. Now he has gotta live on by eating antibiotics everyday. Though, the dad made a report police, and on the day of the court hearing, they were told that the policemen had fled away, and couldn't get ahold of him....

I hope that our prime minister could focus on the police force more than anything from now on!

2:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, maybe victims like these cases have reported, or lodged complaints, taken action. But dont forget that their actions to act against these biasness may be dismissed because of corruption again. Which would bring them back to square 1. The best, would still b to leave the country.

2:23 AM  
Anonymous l-z-boi said...

These characters disgust me. Then what are we suppose to do if we happens to end up in these situations?
Should we not put our signature down?
Should we pay to get our food? What are our rights?

2:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing as these may serve as an important lessons for all of us. However think again, is this what your life is worth?? Why should ya changed, but do something bout it.. though i didn't go thru the same as you, but it is always better to be prepared for the worst.. All this while malaysia is full of shits.. i'm sure at times ya might overheard your parents complaining bout our country, from govt to local municipal council..
Know your rights as a citizen and detainee, though you're innocent. In Malaysia, money and power is everything.. so don't go against them once you're detained but go their way.. give them as many as ya think to make your life easier, money is always there for us to yield, but not our pride.

2:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I can see that the majority post here themes "SHUT UP & BE HAPPY"

I wonder what happened to the moral structure & the country's foundation that we all uphold in our heart. Has inferiority complex gotten into the police force?

I mean, do we have the right to defend ourselves?

When someone knowingly harms you for their sadistic sake? Do we have the basic right to defend oursleves? Im talking about putting you in jail for things like this without sufficient proof?

The blacks have the right, the koreans have the right, the japanese have the right, & even the israelies have the right.

I would humbly urge all malaysians to stand up to this nonsense. We need a standard operation procedure in effect on raids. Meaning, no one can touch us until proven guilty. Why do we have to comply and go to jail when the charge is not crime related? We dont.

i sincerely fear that the same situation in USA early 90's will happen here, it goes critical where the revenge is on the police officer's family. when this happen, this is not a safe country any more.

but if you think we dont have what it takes to make malaysia a better place, shut up and be happy.


4:44 AM  
Anonymous Gio said...

A good cop is a deap cop! In the U.S. They are called pigs, for good reasons. It is a culture for cops to be corrupted. The only way is to get rid of the old cops. So, if you see one of them on beat or on a bike, just run them over with your car. Do not feel guilty as you have done society a favor. We are in a country where racism and bigotry is ENCOURAGED. So, if you are a civilised person, living with animals, kill the ones that threaten you and your family. Malaysia Boleh .... Mampus

6:08 AM  
Anonymous The Dane said...

Dear Abettermalaysian,

When I heard about your incident from a common friend I was apalled!! :o(

Wish I could give you some sort of encouragement, but I think the best advice from my end is that you rely on your loved ones to carry you through this, and then hopefully with your persistence and newfound courage/outrage/disillusionment you will be able to make a difference!?

It seems you're reaching quite a number of people already!

All the best for you and those close to you mate!


6:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know it's hard and all 22 of you will be taking a risk if you should make a formal complain. But I think it is important to let more public and the world knows about this. The corrupted policemen have to be put away. Maybe instead of suing, publish your story in local and foreign newspapers or magazines to start getting some attention.
Whatever outcome should come from this, I do believe that every dog has its day. So hang in there.

6:47 AM  
Blogger DeViant said...

"All 22 of us will never be the same again. Malaysia will never be the same again. I was once a fun loving jovial person. Food no longer taste good, the sky seems perpetually cloudy, everybody I meet looks different."

How stupid can you be?!?!?! you idiot!! (i'm sorry, but you really deserved that!) you were pronounced INNOCENT@!!! shouldn't the food taste 100 times better?!? shouldn't the sky seem a 100 times brighter?!?!?! unless ofcourse u find living in a dark, damp and smelly jail cell pleasant... !

8:39 AM  
Blogger pohsi said...

Hi abettermalaysian,
I'm really troubled by your experience. Would you be interested to write a commentary piece for theCICAK?
Or have someone interview you and write about it?

It's a story that must be read by more people.

Shoot me an email at:
thecicak [at] gmail [dot] com

Hope to hear from you soon,
Poh Si

9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is regarding Old Fart. Well, basically i understand what are you trying to say but to tell you the truth i think you are just being naif. You want the blogger to name you names, pics and documents? well, its up to you to believe it la. But think properly who would be so fucking free to post up a story all made up just to critize the police force? comon B-A-B-Y !!, you should know Malaysia very well if you grew up here. This kind of corrupted things happens all the time. How the hell is a country going to progress if small things like this which makes the citizen of Malaysia lose faith in their own justice system. And with people like you around? i don't think you're much of the use to this country too. Hahaha..Well, go ahead and prove to us that the police are not like that. Why dont you work as a police and tell us how is it like? dumbass...

9:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i spoke to a chinese police officer before with a rank of ASP. He told me that he was put in jail because his peers just didnt like him. they threw him in jail for a few days and then posted him somewhere in the suburbs. That was when he left the force, his presence was not appreaciated.

so do you think chinese people want to join the force?

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see no reason why these sad situations happened. Even the top cop's was nabbed by the ACA in today newspapers. If he can't control his own son, what about the thousands of cop in the country. A real sad case for malaysia.

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes you really wonder, is it worth putting the effort in a country that turns its back on you? What has the government done for us lately? All this talk about Malaysia making a name for itself on the world stage won't happen if this continues. Stop spending so much money on infrastructure to make Malaysia well-known. I'd like to see the tax-payers money getting put to good use, start by eliminating corruption within the Parliament. It really sickens me to know what has happened to our once proud nation, I'm ashamed to call it home now. If the law system is controlled by corruption, where is the justice?

12:18 PM  
Anonymous mat saleh said...

Guys, am really sorry what happened to you!! Agre that it is time to do something about this, for the best of Malaysia!

I tell you here another story that happened to my friend...

My friend, she also a blond mat saleh was driving from Sri Hartamas passing by KLGCC when a police drove up next to her. She never speeds and this was the case fthis time as well, the police recognises her being a foreinger and the blue lights is on...

She pulls over and is confident she didnt do anything wrong...policemen walks over and she is scared to death, not being the toughest persons in situations like this...the police tolds her that she was speeding and that she needs to pay. She says that she didnt speeds which makes the policemen to TAKE UP HIS GUN, puts it on the edge of the door, clearly visible and scaring and repeats the question...

My dear friend, scared to death, ends up paying the police 150RM...

Later, when the police took off, she had to stop and vomate along the road side terryfing after this scary incident...

You dont have to think hard how this makes you feel about the malaysian police...

Lets hope they start taing this serious soon...very sooon!

12:38 PM  
Blogger mamat said...

My condolences mate. I share your sorrow and grief!

Hoping that you would recover well and insyAllah, good and truth will prevail, sooner than later.


3:55 PM  
Blogger Friend from Texas said...

old fart...

you seem to assume the junior cop knows how to access the internet, and read in English. About the only thing these Neanderthals can do, if at all they figure out how to get onto the Net, is to look for porn! don't believe me? ask anyone you know who works for computer/tech companies that provide computers and services to the police dept.

To the author of this blog, I'm sorry to hear about your predicament. Someone as passionate and linguistically skilled like you should stop wasting your time in Malaysia. There are other places where you will find happiness and contentment...and you can still love Malaysia, and come back to visit regularly. In fact, you might even love Malaysia more when you don't have to live within the festering third-world mentality establishment.

The root of this problem and most other problems in Malaysia can be summed up with one acronym.


Get rid of that rot, and most things should fall in place.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am so sorry to hear what 22 of you had to go through. But for the sake of others like you in future, please fight this.

There will be many out there that will support you. Perhaps, many other victims - they could be women and children, too.

There are people that can help out there. All you need to do is highlight this issue. Go to the press, go on the news, go to Suhakam, go to the Opposition, make noise and FIGHT!

This is OUR country and it IS NOT a police state. Use the system and fight this. Use the media and fight this.

The police are the ones acting like criminals here! And they should be the ones to leave, not us!

Fight it, brother and we will fight with you.

If you have fought and there is no response from the system, then you may leave this country.But not before then.

For the sake of all good people in this country, please FIGHT this!

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mann this is rubbish mann...u should go to the malay mail...they can do something about...Damn those popo's!!!

7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont blame them neither do i blame you .. its jst the way of life in malaysia. im not sure if everyone has noticed.. but most clubbers and pubbers and whats not in night life does drugs. i have plenty of friends that does drugs in night spots. its because the majority of young party goes who take drugs are chinese rich kids. its natural for them to assume and treat u like dirt. if you want to make a change.. make a change from inside... whereby drugs are not accepted in nightspots... when bouncers actually do their job and managers who actually kick dealers out of nightspots, not encouraging them to come n sell n get a cut of sales. for whats its worth... if u want to have a drink without such shit.. goto hotels or higher class places like bangsar. if u want to have fun in kiara or atmos/beach/thaiclub... be prepared for things like that. unless u have bodyguards and ur father is some tunku or yang di pertuan... sadly.. ur jst treated like rubbish.

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and to those ppl that hates malaysia.. pls do not ever come back anymore,EVER.. pls stay where u r and dont condemn msia anymore. dont condemn somehting that you dont know about and ran away from. never tell ppl ur msian or u grew up in malaysia or anything to do with msia. stop condemning coz ur not msian, thus no right to do so :) have a nice day mate

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ehemm.. well for those who think they r living in hell, here pls migrate asap, go ahead. u r not welcome ere. my friend..yes, i do symphatize with had happened to you but i feel a bit uneasy about u running away from it n start blaming everybody for had happened. wanna migrate to s'pore and all.. yes go ahead... cowardice act!!!

d'ya think this cruelty is only in m'sia.. pls open up ur mind!! u know the scenario that we face everywhere in this wporld but don't forget that we do have a system, do not potray m'sia negatively as most of u do. nothing is fair.. bush destroyed iraq.. is it fair? suicide bombers killing the it fair?

come on!! we f to unite to make a better malaysia.. NO MORE TALKS... BUT ACTIONS.....

pls be positive n do not run away from this battle.. if u do.. yes u r the sympathetic losers n u do not belong ere.. migrate now, we do not wish to have u here as malaysian...

1:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alexi said.....
like many other poster said, this happened to probably thousands of warganegara like u before. just ask around and someone would tell you the same story happened to their
obviously chinese community is the one being screwed here in msia. sin tax? what sin do i deserve for drinking a beer? Even private organisation like Astro is screwing chinese viewers. Just look at the packages and price offered for general chinese and non-chinese viewers.See the different?

3:29 AM  
Blogger harlim said...

There are a few ways to deal with this type of incidence.

To me, the police are LICENSED crooks all trained by UMNO and TDM. They bullied all Malaysians into kow tow. That is why when malaysians see a police or asked to pull over, they threatened you and instantly, your tails are between your legs. That is how their first step. Then, they are "low chin" and tried to get money from you. After that, they set you free.

You can fight directly with them - lawyers, ACA, NGOs, Suhakam etc

Or the other more effective way is to spread this story to ALL the Malaysia, email, flyers about the corruption in the Police force.

The third way is the combination of both.

Well, for easy way is to tell all our grandfathers, friends , colleagues on how the police operates.

Also boycott those night spots visited by the police and let the public which are the ones. Those night spots are not protecting innocent visitors. Imagine can they allow clients carrying parangs into their premises.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this really sucks, i've had my fair share of dealing with the cops a few times, having them threatening you with their weapons and shit...they'll never leave without a bargain and they'll NEVER live without a BARGAIN, such assholes

9:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very sorry to hear that and deeply emphatize for you.

Understand how you feel!
With such a humiliation, this experience will absolutely leave a permanent scar in our heart. Especially a young responsible INNOCENT citizen.

However, we should be strong and able to face it.
Don't let this incident change or obstruct your good life path.
Your family members and love ones are always with you and are suffering emotionally worrying bout you. Don't give up!

This kind of issue happens everywhere, even in the highly developed countries.

Malaysia is not a bad place.
We love the country, not the govt's office.
Yes, the country's policy and culture still needs a lot of improvements. That's why IT need a lot of good and patriotic people like you.
Believe in yourself. Do what should be done.

Appreciate it very much for sharing this to us. Pray for you recover soon.
Hope you would live your life to its fullest, positively!

Biar Jiwa Membara!!!


10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't help but feeling after reading the whole episode that there is an element of story-telling here. Forgive me if i am wrong. But you mentioned that the initial urine samples, in your case, were tested positive 5 times out of 6 and you have your eyes on the samples and presumably the eyes are on them too all the while the test were being done. If I am them I would do exactly likewise until further test can be carried out to prove otherwise.
The Police are doing their job (for this part), just blame your lucky star that it happened during the weekend.
You appear to impress upon us that because there is no DOCUMENT and therefore there is nothing you can do further. I don't think so. Your family went to a bank and open a account presumably to post bail to get you out. Isn't that count for something of a black n white that can be used?

I believe the truth of your ordeal and the treatment you went through but I also sensed it may not be the whole story.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous TrySomethingIfSerious said...

I seriously dont know what means we can do to change things from the way they are(the corruption, rascism..etc...). The effort has to be concerted from all of us, not only the 22, but concerned Malaysians from all walks of life, who wants to see a better Malaysia.

Here is a suggestion (weird as it may be):
Gather all evidence ( e.g. pictures, signed statements from the 22, the stories from the Star/Malay Mail), and we put it in some organised hardcopy. Then, use this hardcopy and sent them to people, as below.

Now, living in Malaysia, I know that it is important to know someone in the ranks or someone high in politics. With the large number of political aspirants, I am sure someone will at least use this story to get public attention.
(hey, it sounds a bit rotten, but only power can change things here)

Either that or you can try the normal but not so reliable of means such as

1)Lim Kit Siang
2)Karpal Singh or his son
3)Michael Chong
4) MCA

Here is a useful list of emails:
Police :

however, from your story, i deduce that you are from a good background or from a middle class to high class family ( drinking wine is not for the common folks here). I am sure you are connected to someone in high places.

And as some as pointed out, do enjoy life out there in the free. There are plenty others in jails, innocent as you are. (if the ex DPM can be there, there everybody can...for a price).

Do this for others. Do this for your next generation. A blog is a start, but by no means should be the end.
I wish you all the best.

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i do think that something of the sorts happened, but i also think that you were one of the ppl who took drugs. personally, staying out till early morning is a sign of time wastage and lack of responsibility. The rubber tappers are already sharpening their tapping kits ready to go to work. You guys are returning to sleep?!! I think you are an effing loser if you said anything that didn't mimic the true incident. and your failure to acknowledge your own rights highlights more on how much more a loser you are.

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a quick glance at the articles... looked through the comments posted on.

Keep expressing your views is OK, but it will not do any better than just creating sympathy, anger or loss of confidence in the police force/judiciary.

Why not you group those involved, consult a BN MP or DAP MP, meet the press, send a memorandum to SUHAKAM. Send your blog site to reporters, maybe some are interested in researching into this.

I believe this is happening not only in M'sia. You either count yourself unlucky, stay away from places that may land you into troubles in future, or if you want to voice it out to see results, go beyond this blog. But there is always a price to pay for, are you ready for the consequences? Think about it.

If it really matters, TAKE REAL ACTION...

6:52 PM  
Anonymous Satonaka Halu said...

Dear bro...
Who says that Malaysia cops are good? They are the worst.When you get locked up and you are confident that you are right, just "record" it undetected then send it to the news, TV stations and all! Then we will see either their face will turn BLUE or NOT!

6:53 PM  
Anonymous DarnThoseCops said...

God damn you anonymous 4:26 PM. I'm not a pub-goer myself, and I've never been to a pub. You're clearly discriminated against pub-goers. Maybe those cops that deprecated abettermalaysia's pride come from the likes of you, biased against nightclub visitors. If going out to have fun means not being responsible, then screw us all, cause we're all irresponsible then. And wasting time? Come on! Don't tell me you've never wasted time. Just because someone wastes time in a different way, it doesn't mean you have the right to condemn the way people waste their time. And worst of all, to say that abettermalaysia took drug spells your own stupidity and oblivion. If i knew who you were, i'd personally push you to a pub and accuse you of taking drugs once you step into the pub.

And for all other bloggers who wish to victimize abettermalaysia further after what he's gone through, give him a rest. Focus on what's on hand - corruption, a reality we can't deny. If you doubt the veracity of this account, just leave. Keep this place clean, keep this place for peole who wants justice.

To abettermalaysia, I really feel for you. You should really make this incident public. Maybe then those victims of corruption will, hopefully, stand up one by one to support your case. And i hope this story will soon reach the ears and eyes of justice-holders, TRUE justice-holders, not specious ones like the ones in question here.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Behind the story,
normally THEY target those spots, that can't "GAOTIN
on the agreed FIGURES",
while we rakyat/ costomers,
become the casuallty of the Elephants tussles.

Be careful where U visit for fun.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please contact
LIM Kiat Siang,
or SUhakam Elizeberth Wong,
for a better malaysia
for our future kids.

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a man, I cried after reading your blog. I cried especially for Malaysia.

10:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, these cops (some of them) are damn dirty no doubt. Seriously i think u shud launch a police report maybe at bukit aman see what happens or go to the press man. No joke. This thing gota be known by the rest of the malaysians. Someone has to start this...someone has to get this thing to everyone's attention. Its pure rubbish they treat theyd emand for money. This is way out of control. It makes innocent people like us whom just go out to party to be afraid of whats gonna happen at the end of d day. Im really pist off with this cops who did such a thing man. I seriously think you shud stand up for this. I think many of us out there will certainly voice and even give all the neccessary support to this kinda stuff if someone can voice it out and if there could be proof. Somehow i think these cops gota pay for what they did. They can just take youths do what they want than just let them go like nuthing happen. Pure rubbish man. After hearing your story even im afraid now to go to clubs. Man what the fark innocent people can just be treated liddat. And what the shit is with the damn police drug thing..i mean like it shud be realiable not just show positive than later the hospital one shows the other way around. How could anyone of us trust these cops. And certainly they have done everything wrong. Treating people like you in such away is like as bloody wrng. And for the cops to do spoils the whole image of the rest of the good cops. I mean like really we shud all stand up for these...fight for this ....ive heard alot of this stories too but nobody kinda says it on the press. Someone has to teach these cops a lesson.

11:52 PM  
Anonymous syusmar said...

you've been through hell but guess were proven innocent! Shit happens everyday and what do we do about it? are we to harp on it or move on? let's not look at the glass as half empty but half full ;).

your experience will definitely make you a better person in time to come....much better than now and you have made a stating things out in your have made it known to certain have expose the monster in the police force.

anyone can say anything...but its you that went through the journey...its you that went through the want to make a have done it. Even if what you did was just a drop in the still makes a difference.

cheers'll be okay ;)

2:56 AM  
Anonymous Everywhere in Malaysia said...

I"m sorry you had to find out the hard way. Corruption is rampant in Malaysia in general, and it is something we as citizens have little say over. Sure, we could vote, voice our complains, go to the media and make a big fuss. But for what its worth, and for what you have seen, the media will highlight the case, small actions will be taken, but after 4 months, the situation will continue...

U might think that just bribing the cops rm 100 for a speeding ticket or a traffic offense is the only thing our Policemen are good for, but it would be stupid to not think that corruption woudln't happen at any level.

For those that have read this and doubt its credibility, you can be my guest and go ahead getting caught in such a similar situation. The likelihood that your experience is the same as this is about 80 %.

So be wise..

5:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's look at a bigger picture. Why Soda being singled out again and yet again?

Low-ranking officers have to stoop as low to extort RM10 for a ciggie. (Hmm, but RM10 a person, a week with 52 weekends, lama-lama jadi bukit jugak). Now I also understand all the perut buncit fenomena. We don't see many slim police officers. Even if we do, they tend to go perut buncit sooner later. A case of makan terlalu banyak and no exercise perhaps.

What would mid & high-ranking officers up to?

Soda, singled out. The rest? Are they under 'protection'? Perhaps Soda not pay enough protection kua. This is evident not only in KL, but also in other towns.

Mamak stalls with their expanding 'territory' taking over car parks and lanes may not be underjurisdiction of police. Local councils perhaps. Aren't them a danger to people again? Why we still see them sprouting like mushrooms? Got protection? Big bro jaga maybe.

Let's take it a fact. Corruption is not that bad. Corruption money get spent sooner or later. It 'induce' inflation. Inflation is good for economy.

Polis dah tak segan silu mau mintak duit kat depan orang ramai di POLIS STATION bagi mempercepatkan proses perolehan dokumen.

A Royal Commission to get feedback on police? My foot. The majority are corrupt!


There was even a saying, if want balik kampung. Notify your neighbours, but not notify your friendly police. We never know. Tak boleh harap!

Harap sendiri lagi baik!

- akuanakmalaysia ???

5:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell ya'll wat...i think its time to tell the new generation to leave this country and to find a better place than the hell r we suppose to reach developed country status wit all these @#$% law enforcers...they cant even shit rite..damn..

5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear abettermalaysia,

This cannot be left like that. Please approach the media. Better still email me. I have a few friends working with the media and I WANT TO ENSURE that this doesnt happen again.

A few months back when a raid was done on a cybercafe something like this happened and it was reported on the 3rd page of the leading english newspaper in the country.

This followed the person who was detained, sending a letter to the media. A reporter interviewed the person and story published and investigation carried out.

Im very thankful that you decided to blog about this. We need to get out to the public. Reach out to them and tell them what goes on in these kind of illegal, corrupt raids.

Please, please do not let this pass. Email me at if you are not able to contact the media directly. I will help you ensure that the police do not get away with something like this.

once again its

will wait for ur email.

Malaysian well-wisher.

Thank you.

7:38 AM  
Anonymous sub_zero7 said...

mostly all police r corrupted.. they dun giv a damn about u.. malaysian police suckz n damn lazy...

7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude...the fact that you can still hold yourself, I respect you to the fullest man. Some guy posted comments on the BUMI idealogy...basically, that just sucks ass. I am not being racist here cause there is corruption everywhere in the world. Saying Malaysia is a developing nation...the only way Malaysia can be developed is when scum like those are brought down to the feet of justice. Dude..hang in there and I am sure the guy above will not let them get away so easily. Keep the faith... Have peace brother!

8:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets hope that someone reading this blog will be able to do something about it ..... unfortunately a public apology is never enough.. and a revamp in the system cannot never be made immediately

9:09 AM  
Blogger SC said...

seriously, reading about this just pisses me off, and I'm also aware that this happens to others as well.

I went to a HIV/AIDS workshop, and the transexuals there shared their stories of police abuse. Apparently some officers just routinely go to their house and extort them, sometimes a few times a month. Even some of the lawyers that were present were shocked to hear about this, but the ones experienced with cases like these say it's pretty normal.

When the police become a pest, we really have to start worrying :(

10:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, i know exactly how u feel. In fact, i was almost 'handcuffed' and threatened a few days ago by malaysian ss2 police. Becareful guys, they really are gangsters and there is just no sense in negotiating with them. Either u pay them, or u end up in jail. Normaly its like that. There is no point in knowing your rights or knowing the laws, when you're in the situation, they will not give you a chance to talk about it. So seriously, i advice you people to walk in pairs during the night. Guys or girls, they might just come up to ask for your IC and start accusing you of "tidak bekerjasama dengan pihak polis" when you request for their identification. So yeh, we live in Malaysia and puasa is near, avoid walking alone at night on streets, be it because of criminals or cops. Yeh this might sound funny, wait till you experience the numbness in you when they accuse you of things you never dreamt of. Then you will definitely appreciate your freedom which you have now.

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had my share of similar "cops" experience while i was driving to Uni one afternoon. A cop just pulled me over, casually ask my to step out of my car and then ask for my ID and license. Then I asked him what was the matter, and he said "You know, you don't have to ask me whats wrong. Because I can say point anything on this book (the summonse book) and say that you did it". I was freaked out at that moment but i remained calm. When he sees that, he knows that i wont offer any money to him. I asked him "humbly" if I could leave and I was "allowed" to do so.

I am not a patriotic person but i love the town in which i grew up and live. One thing for sure, the situation in not going to change, so i decided to seek a better life outside Malaysia. My advise to others is to live with it or to get out. I have made my choice, whats yours?

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I experienced this once in Kuching but at a lesser degree. The hotel pub I was in got raided and I spent till 7am at the police station along with others.

Anyway, police enforcement in Msia is a joke and so is our justice system. I mean, who HAS NOT been stopped by highway patrol, asking for bribe money, even when you were not speeding??!

5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey so dissapointed with all e comments u all have made.U shudnt give up on ur country just bcos of these polluted bribe taking malaysian cops.Do u think that by leaving this country n migrate to another country would solve e problem,and promise u a better life?Bribery happens 2 any part of e world...n just bcos uve never heard or experience it,it doesnt happen.If u ask anyone from all around e world,they would always have comments about e goverment.No government is so-ever-perfect out there!Wut we can do to stop e bribery from stop giving them money,we shoudnt encourage them asking from us for more.Some people bribe these police money to get away from getting speeding tickets...who encouraged them?We are!So,we can make it stop too.If u read or watch e news,goverment has started somthin to prevent this from going on.
So,i just wanna say,there are yet other things that we can be proud of our country....dont let these polluted cops effect u on givin up on our country.Ive travelled n stayed in many countries,but i wud want u 2 know,we shud b lucky to stay in Malaysia!

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emigrate to a better country. Take all your money with you. Sadly, Malaysia will only degenerate further. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. It will descend deeper into the abyss.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous DownRodeo said...

I think everyone here is looking at it the wrong way. Ok, what happened is really bad, and should be avoided. But the problem is that these fuckin cops are just too damned lowly paid. It's really a catch 22 situation. Do these guys DESERVE higher salary? I dont think so... but then again, it is a hazardous job. However, how useful are they in a real serious situation? Again, I cant answer that. Keep in mind, these guys are also the "shoot first; ask questions later" kind. What's my point here? In our everyday lives, the jobs that we do, if we are not happy with our salary, we look for means and ways to make up for it. Me, I do freelance web design at night, or work part time. For malaysian cops, unfortunately, they resolve to corruption. So, I say, as a taxpayer, the fuckin goverment should offer cops a higher salary, weed out the old school corrupted bastards, and start training new ones with higher salaries.


Born with insight and a raised fist
A witness to the slit wrist
As we move into '92
Still in a room without a view
Ya got to know
Ya got to know
That when I say go, go, go
Amp up and amplify
I'm a brother with a furious mind
Action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

Something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em

Fist in ya face, in the place
And I'll drop the style clearly
Know your enemy...Know your enemy!

Hey yo, and get with this...uggh!

Word is born
Fight the war, fuck the norm
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D the E the F the I the A the N the C the E
Mind of a revolutionary
So clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy?

Now something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em

Now action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
Sick of sick of sick of sick of you

Time has come to pay...........

Know your enemy!
Come on!

Yes I know my enemies
They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are Malaysian dreams (eight times)

9:50 PM  
Anonymous nebo said...

I share the same anger towards the corruption within the forces in our country.

Though, it wasn't as bad as yours, still "the narrator" can't hide his disgust toward those heartless THUGS

1:06 AM  
Anonymous dhssraj said...

although this is extremely touching, and many would attest to the truth of this story, the reality of it if this was sent to any form of FAIR law enforcement agency, nothing much can be proven. No names, ID numbers, etc.

that being said, we still cant say for sure if its totally made up, the author might just wanna protect himself from making a public accusation.

but it shows exactly an example of the social ill in malaysia we have been living with. its part and parcel of our daily life. hard to let go. its called 'rasuah'. 95% of malaysians have done it or condoned it at some point or another, in some form or another. my dad, your dad, his dad. want examples?

how we eagerly buy pirated cds/dvds. remember they dont survive by luck, its OUR money they use to bribe cops, the same people we condemn for taking bribes.

let us not get into pirated software. how many microsoft home users are using licensed windows?

how we would eat in illegal shops by the side of the road with no licenses. cheap maah, right?

heck even for the potheads out there, that weed you buy for RM50, part of the money was spent to pay off some cop so taht you can get your kicks! haha!

how we would be the first to bribe/ call our family at 'high' places as soon as we get into some sort of trouble.

bribery is so engrained in our daily lives i dont think us malaysians have the balls to say 'listen, enough is enough'. its a bit hard for us to say, we want clean cop and clean minister while we still fund illegal vcd peddlers to pay their bribes to the cop rright? we still fund clubs to pay the cops to open till later at night. at the end, when are we gonna realise, directly or not, its OUR money.

thats why we have a substandard quality of life. cause we dont have the balls to go on any other way. thats why we pay high toll, rm 200 extra for driving license etc etc etc. honestly we can go on forever.

so what do we have? business enterprises bribing local authorities. then we buy these products from these businesses, and so its OUR money used for bribing.

man on the street purchasing illegal stuff. then its OUR money used by the street vendor to remain in business.

heres a bigger corporate example. we all know about the rampant corruption in the building industry. so, big developer puts in 20mil in 'rewards' to get a tender, builds the damn highway/house, and WE buy it. whos money? ours.

want a solution? can, sure. stop the buck. simple. refuse to bribe. refuse to bribe when we get caught for drunk driving. refuse to buy illegal software or DVDs. refuse to deal with companies with known suspect transactions. refuse to buy weed. etc etc.

but that also means a lot of things will change. a lot of the 'comforts' we now enjoy will be gone. but we want a proper system in place right? so refuse. slowly the corrupt bastards will be weeded out.

the question remains, do we have the balls for change?

3:13 AM  
Anonymous Res ipsa loquitor said...

Malaysia is the malaysia we all know. Corrupted. Uncivilised. Unscrupulous. To many people, we may seemed to be better than a lot of other countries, in reality, we are worse off.
Sad to say, incidents like these happen day in day out. In a way, u should count yourself a bit luckier than most. No disrespect, i feel for u over wat happened. For eg. just 2 days ago,i spoke to my friend who just got busted cos he happened to be in a friend's house, he was alone, the police raided and found Ketamine and acid in the house, he was proven to be clean, though the drugs found were very minimal, he spent 9 days in the prison and paid a whopping $18,000 just to get out!!! That includes $50 for the police to write a report, $100 to make a phone call etc. He was just at the wrong house at the wrong time.
Had a friend who was involved in fight, came back not right after being held for weeks in prison. The coppers whcked him daily. Sad huh? But this my friend is the reality.
I'm not here to direct a criticism at one's comment, i think everybody have a right to their own opinion, i'm just here to 'enlighten' everybody bout the things that happen in our beloved country, malaysia.
Are u looking for justice? Redemption? It's next to impossible in our country which is riddled with so much of corruption and lack of transparency.
Anger with the country? the system? I say count yourself very unlucky and move on and conc on more imp things eg. loved ones, career. Earn your dough and get the hell out of this country. Get a better life. This is wat i'm doin. Have a good life mate.

5:40 AM  
Anonymous felicia said...

oh myyy...poor u. perhaps you should print this whole blog out and send it to The Star, NST and any other publications. it might be rejected but at least it's an real "open eyed" to them.

8:09 AM  
Blogger abettermalaysia said...

Oops, another racist comment. It was deleted. Thanks for your words of encouragement 'anonymous', but I really meant business when I said I will not tolerate racial slur.

9:08 AM  
Anonymous spring said...

we should find way to aid this corruption in the country, instead of just letting go, the government and the head of the country should take responsibility for this too, and children should also be strongly enlightened with the right human ethic. I'm so disappointed with Malaysia, after staying at oversea for several years.

10:04 AM  
Blogger abettermalaysia said...

Dear Felicia and others,

So many people have urged me to go to the press. Star, NST and other printed media. Thing is, I chose Malaysiakini because anybody who's anybody in the political scene and many NGO's would keep tabs on Malaysiakini.

So the question is, would it be beneficial to go to the printed press, yes, it might be important that people know what may be going on. Problem is, I do not want the Malaysian people to lose confidence with the police. They need help, as much as we need security. Like I've said on my main page, I will not give up hope with the police.

By going to the printed media, I might be instilling hate to the wide masses to the institution that protects us. And that is HARDLY BENEFICIAL. What I would love to do more than anything else is to seek audience with people who would make a difference. People possibly in the realm of the police IGP Mohd Bakri Omar, or possibly the Prime Minister. At first it sounded like a long shot, but now it isn't after writing the blog and approaching Malaysiakini.

My current opinion on approaching political parties are mixed. Political propaganda is something I do not really want to be associated with.

We'll see how it goes. Thank you all for your support, it has kept me going.

10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

woah..ur story is massive.. similar thing happened to my bf abt a year ago.. he was walking out of the clinic in kepong when 3 plain clothed policemen yelled at him to stop. obviously he didnt coz they din say or show that they were cops.. so in d end, they beat him up, and detained him for being a drug dealer. searched his car and found my pink panadols and claimed that those were ecstacy.. wth??!! ecstacy? right... anyways, they locked him up for like 5 hours while they did a urine test.. no phone calls allowed.. when i called him, they waved the phone and taunted him saying things like "ur baby is calling.. woo" omg. they were so incredibly disrespectful.. sheesh! finally, they allowed him to call.. he called me and i informed his parents as well as this close friend of ours.. (d friend is sorta authorative in police force)he was immediately released, thank heavens. this goes to show. in malaysia, those with rank and money, will be able to go free anytime they choose to. u got d connections, u can win. and oh, btw, my bf got beat up by them as well y aknow.. like literally bashed him up. then they threathen that if he ever says anything to any1, they got his address.. and they can harm his family. he never said anything to any1 in authority to do smth, which is smth i feel sad abt,, they also tried to make him sign some form, but he refused. smart boy.

im truly sry abt ur situation.. but i think that all u can do is hope it doesnt happen again. if u really wanna pin down those asses who did that to u, make sure u get lotsa back up from those dato and datins and whoever else. seriously. no chance whatsoever otherwise. gluck. all the best. my sincere heartfelt pity for ur situation.

10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you stand for shit, you get shit. Either go die fighting or move away to escape it all. Or, if you can't beat them, join them.

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Gasing Hillz said...

sad for u bro. this low ranks of police brings down the whole image of malaysian police i would say. seriously f***k them ! bout ur side, u gotta do something bout it. go launch a complain somewhere or go to a NGO or what ever it is...make it a sweet revenge bro ! the whole jail thing was devastating ! no one should go trough it...

i've experience it myself...gettin handcuffed, but i had marijuana with me at that time, but we paid them off about 200 bucks and a Nokia 3310 phone! they are just lame ppl whom r desperate for money...

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malaysia is a complicated country as such that there will never be enough resources to feed the police or the other government servants,thus allowing corruption to take place. The most wise thing to do right now is to voice yourself fully through the media and hope that someday, a VIP will come across your blog and decide to amend a law that can finally protect ourselfs, the law-abiding citizen and the younger generation adolescence from the Police.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it happaned to my own son a few months back. they always choose a saturday night so that sunday the court is parents you are prepared to pay anything to get him released rather to spent the whole sunday in lockup.

6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

these kind of notorious acts by our law enforcers is an eyesore. i'm not afraid to say that what has been said by this author is true because it happened to my loved one before. and i lost my faith in malaysia ever since then. all the things that we see everyday are just covers of untold stories.

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah...untold many things that been covered up....if anyone from local university, you would know more....if anyone has friends in political field...will even know more......and that gives a big impact...

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AngryCitizen: Who is the Malaysian POLICE? MALAYS.. MUSLIM..what else.. FUCK MALAYSIA MAN. I HATE THIS COUNTRY.. This is stupid fucked up country with bunch of morons and fucking idiotics shits.. check out the newspaper today 18th Oct. Royal family in Johor crash and whack foreigners wedding party. Wat kind of shit is this? And have you see the parlimen meeting video where the Minister say.."Malaysia ini negara islam. kalau you tak suka.. you keluar.. keluar.." No matter how, i will just this.. Malaysian Police, Postmen, Government Doctor.. all the FUCKING GOVERNMENT SERVANT WHICH ARE 99% MALAYS.. ARE ALL THE SAME. PIECE OF SHIT!!! RUBBISH!!

8:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is a shame but it is happening in our so called harmony and safe country.What we are diffrent than others country is that most of us don't know what is the right we have as a civilian when we have to face this kind of situation.I have always heard that it is the court that you can be judged right or wrong.But who will choose to right path to complain all these when you know going through the whole prosedure to claim your right is time consuming and money burden way to be at the court.So the police will always take this opportunity to get advantage.I cannot say all policeman are evil.But because of these small portion of parasite.The police image has never been better in our society.To be honest,this is the sad story of our poor legal system.Well,if you don't mind.There's still a way to take the attention of those resposible authority.The press is the only media that is standing on the line between you and those authorities.Perhaps you can at least alerted some friends of us out there of your humalition.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why is oldfarts attacking the blogger. Or maybe oldfart is another royal family or Minister or some shits. sigh ....

8:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I appriciate your blog and its insights to what is happening on the street however the saddest thing is that this doesn't only happen in Malaysia.

Always remember where you came from and what you believe in. There are situations much worse happening at our doorsteps and around the world in a daily basis.

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In some ways, you are lucky to get out that early... I was stuck there for 10 days where they transferred me from Cheras to PJ State... It totally changed me in every possible way... :(

2:18 AM  
Blogger taya@kangta said...

Unlike the rest, i won't say much on what you should or what you shouldn't do but i just wanna say Thank you.

Earlier on, i was really thinking hard on which citizenship to give up as i'm a permanent resident of another country and i still have a higher chance of turning into another citizen aside from being a Malaysian. But after reading this and other comments of other people, it's goodbye Malaysia for me.

Thank you again.

3:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo Man
I feel your pain. I want to cry cause I got an offer to go to canada but my love for this country prevented me from going.

may the Lord grant you the strength to forgive your persecutors....
jesus loves you.....

4:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey..sorry to hear what you've gone through.. but my advice is that we cant change the corrupted. so change yourself for the better.. learn to be more street wise.. sometimes things like this can be avoidable. i've been in police raids countless times, thank god nothing like this has happened. maybe the crowd yoe're mixing with or maybe your attitude.. sorry to say. but this is my advice. learn to be more street wise and choose your friends properly.

5:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

reading ur story makes me wana kill sum1..!who i wana kill? the f*****g policemen.. i rather have dogs looking after the country than all those is happening everywer, nowadays i see lots of policemen standing by the road side pretending to give summones instead they ask u for money or else they'll summone u.. It gets me couple times.. they'll jus accuse u for any offend that u didnt do and threatened u to pay! One day i got so pissed that i hired a lawyer to sue those piece of shit and i got rm4800 for my case.Damn it feels good!but it is not enough to cover the lawyer cost..but it was worth it.

8:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i feel sorry for you mate. its harsh really. and i feel even sadder for the police.. downgrading themselves to the lowest of the lowest being.. i hope you will take the right action, even if it doesn't make any change in the end. rather than protesting in silent. writing this blog has made your story reached a lots of people and perhaps it will go further than that. i wish you a speedy recovery and just.

but for those ranting about leaving the country?? how will it help if you quit your country? malaysia is still a "comparatively" good place to live. its not rigid and plastic like singapore, its not too cold like canada or england. talk abt racism?? try america dude. the grass look greener on the other side?? look only mah...

seek wisdom from people like uncle lim kit siang, it may look like he coughed blood (like in the movie) protesting about the unfairness to no avail.. but imagined how will it be without ppl like him...

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Jan C. said...

Dear blogger, am so sorry that u had to endure all that bullshit. I am currently a resident in New Zealand, but am still a Malaysian citizen. Being here, in a foreign country and listening to all these unspeakable events happening in my OWN country just saddens me. Not only corruption is taking place, even just by walking on the streets is no longer safe. These all gives me the chills for the fact that I am just 20, going on 21. I love Malaysia, I really do. I was even thinking about going ‘home’ to start my career. However, something tells me I should really think twice about this. Why has it got to happen this way? Why can’t ppl of different culture just tolerate each other? Isn’t ‘god’ supposed to tell ‘em to live life ‘peacefully’….it makes me wonder… why pray n be all pious then? Anywayz I might be a lil out of topic, u do take care, I can’t say I can contribute much but however, good luck in everyway. Till then.

7:46 PM  
Anonymous Kuek said...

i never really say this out loud, but after reading this, i just want to say, sometimes i feel shame to be a malaysian.

police who leech from the weak instead of protecting them, police who hide somewhere after traffic light to "catch" their hari raya ang pow when more and more people become snatch theives because nobody can do anything about them.

i feel sorry for malaysia.

7:47 PM  
Blogger chucchy said...

i'm so sorry it happened to you. and thanks for sharing. i mean, i never in a million years would know that these things can happen. well, unless i face them myself in the future. cause for now, i'm only a student. 16 year old one.

fucking shits. vision 2020 my ass!

10:09 PM  
Anonymous szen said...

Dear all...

I feel pain after reading this blog... but think deeply cases like this could be happen in any other country too! Not only Malaysia… my advise to all of you is be strong and don’t easily let any others people to let you down… those police who did this… will have price to pay back! God is watching them and WE ARE!

12:38 AM  
Anonymous IT Group said...

hi ALL, i think stuff like tat would have been buried and never seen the light but somehow with today's communication tool like a bloggin service, I think we've got something here! Maybe it's time to use this channel to spread the words, make it so damn big tat the authorities, medias and everybody CANNOT IGNORE this fact ... I'm with you guys all the way ... will continue to pass tis on and follow the progress,

Good Luck .. IT Group

12:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

alll these suggestions makes me wanna say this.... lets all unite and form our own country! or better yet... let chinese be PM and it would all be good!! hahaha.... chinese government surely wont take bribe... as if.. haha... once chinese has the government, expel all malays! let them goto singapore or thailand! hahaha... WE BROUGHT THIS UPON OURSELVES. NO ONE TO BLAME EXCEPT OURSELVES BECAUSE WE TURNED A BLIND EYE WHEN ALL THIS WAS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US.

hopefully theres future reforms...

5:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and for those who felt 'ashamed', 'dissapointed', 'angry' that this has happened to malaysia... look into your actions and those around you before you start to badmouth fat-ass-policeman-who-sucks... or better yet... apply for citizenship in beautiful countries like australia or US or UK... its bloody great there mate! lower ranking police takes bribes because they dont earn enough to feed their family. they dont own cars like estima,crv,volvo,merc... all they have is proton... the national milo car... so.. if u were in that situation.. u r probably worse than these 'pigs'

5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

damn these policemen r freaking corrupted. they r a disease n disgrace to the law ... something has to be done ...
its not the 1st time ive heard of this .. this is crap !
really hope justice is served ..
n hope u can recover from the traumatic experience ..

6:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sickening. This is sickening. I can't imagine...
There must be something that can be done. legal advise??
anyway... my prayers are with u n the other innocents.

10:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy ... I was at Sri hartamas on that very night to celebrate my friend's birthday party at Breakers. Had supper and left..unfortunately there were few of my friends who went to Soda after the party and then got to go through the same ordeal like you did and yep they were innocent like you. The only thing fortunate i know is that you were not seriously harmed (heard that it happens frequently) and you get to get your bail money back. RM1200 if i'm not mistaken. And also i hope that you will recover soon from the experience. One thing i know, Sir Isaac Newton's Law.. Every has action has it's reaction. You hang on there eh. Take care...

3:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

really sorry bout what happen. tried putting this in NST??? i think you should. *long sigh*

7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sould have just give them some money at the night club. It will save you a whole lot of trobles.

8:17 PM  
Blogger Rabid Wombat said...

Hey man,

I know what you mean about farked up cops. Even though its almost unrelated, my dad went a different ordeal though.

He had found his brother murdered and was forced to stay in that house, with the body inside for close to 7 hours as the cops wanted to question him.

My dad was treated like a criminal, no food, water, nothing was offered to him. Imagine, finding your brother murdered in his house, you call the cops and they make you stay there to be questioned.

And yes, this story was in the papers.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish you lots of good luck in getting those corrupted pays for all the bad things they did on us, the innocent civilians.

11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

feel the same anger bout your story.
Like Anonymous 10.11AM 's bf encountered b4, I faced the same experience b4.

One evening when I was reading some comic books with my friend in a Book Renting shop, there were some big guys which wear plain coats approach me and pressed me against the table. They claimed they're police and ask me to co-operate. One of them just flashed his ID in front of me and hold me rudely. He don't even answer my question but just keep dragging me out from the shop. I was so afraid because I thought this might be a rob case so I did struggled. Then one of them start to hand-cuffed me and dragging me into my car. My friend asked them why they arrest me and whitout questions asked, they pulled my friend into a van too. 3 of them inside my car and drive to the Kelana Police Station, I got beaten up in the car and he yelling at me why I lied to him that my car is not near the shop. In the station, they threaten to shoot me if I tell lie. They accused me that I'm a ecstasy seller. I'm in IT line and I rarely go to disco or pub, but why accused me?
I tell them the truth and I started to understand that they arrest the wrong guy.
Then there's a higher rank officer which is a Chinese came into the room, he decided to let me go as I was really wrongly accused by them.
Until now, I still feel unsafe when I go out, I rather stay at home then going out.

1:05 AM  
Anonymous Hans said...

I am not surprised to read this truth. However, when you see what is happening in other countries, you will know it is all the same in police stations elsewhere. There are a lot of shits happened inside police station which those scumbag thought they are the crime terminator, which can do whatever they like. Trust me or not, due to job requirement, I have lived in US, Germany, Spain, India, China, and Singapore each for at least 6 months. The truth is... It is not only happens in Malaysia. It is just a matter of how frequent and how "open" the polices carry out this silly action...

1:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The major problem lies in the ppl they hire to become policemen. They do not really care about any education, they don't care about the mentaility of the people, any Tom, dick, and harry can become a policeman. The pay they offer is so freaking low that only the poorest, uneducated, uncivilized people sign up. I've stayed in Europe most of my life, the police there are the ones who are the mature, educated, civilized ones. They are the ones stopping ppl from whisteleing at girls on the street, not the other way around.

5:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know wat someone shud do.. someone with the balls.. something that freaking TV channels, or Newspapers should do but they dont have the guts to do.. is a undercover documentaries.. catching policemen talking bribes, catching them whisteling at girls.. and either show it the country at large or keep posting it on the net!

6:00 AM  
Anonymous the unheard voice said...

[ disclaimer : please excuse any spelling or grammer errors. I'm typing as quickly as I can ]

I think the most of you are deluded as to what we can do to change the situation. To bring this to the newspapers would just be rediculous on account of the fact that the government controls everything in the newspapers. All of them. Save for the international papers.

And to bring this to television networks would just be pointless because Malaysian news is censored to keep us viewers from knowing more than we need to know.

Like one of the people who commented earlier, I have to agree that bribery has become so intergrated into our way of life, we don't really notice it anymore. Until, of course, something like this pops up and everyone's like "wtf?!?!?!" and pretends that all of this is new to them.

It's no wonder the most of us are paranoid in Malaysia. Walking across the street scares the fuck out of me. Driving on a highway and going a notch over the speed limit and slowing down quickly when I see a cop in the distance has me wanting to piss my pants.

Actually, come to think of it, the first thing I was thought about Malaysian cops was not to fuck with them. I wasn't told that they were there to help me. Nope. They're more trouble than they're worth.

And yeah, I suppose it's our fault for letting it get so out of hand. But what am I saying, I'm only 17 and I don't know jack shit about the Malaysian police system, or our rights as citizens come to think of it.

7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry to hear that ! all 22 of you go to suhakam fast before your heat become cold. i'm malay and muslim but i dont like either! race got no issue here. the issue is money hunger of the people who supposed to protect us. i hope by bringing this issue up to suhakam can get a few of those fat currupt police back to their kampong and grow jagung. if we say the police salary is low, my salary is even lower...i really felt to say bad thing here but i scared. that is malaysia. the country where i born. i got no place to go. the raid isn't include malay because its about money. useless robbing money..

10:57 AM  
Anonymous DemogatesSupporter said...

that shitty experience is horrible, i was concerned abt my family in malaysia, i left the country few years ago and not willing to back just bcoz i hv heard too much shits like that. i expect the country will not grow if shits like that keep going on, these policemen are neither useful for the country nor at least good for chasing robbers. their lives hv been ruined by corruptions so as been so badly corrupted until they can't live without that. no matter what murders, rapists or robbery or other criminals, the corrupted policemen are still the worst criminal to talk abt. malaysia still survive with some of the nightclub customers, possibly. but if shitheads like oldfart still around, i think we barely survive, barely. the country, as far as i know, for us to live better livings, the only solution will probably be to leave that shit behind and go somewhere else. to find lawyer and fight or to reform, i highly doubt that it's gonna work coz the rich ones like PMs are all corrupted and they rely on each other to the fucking policemen to get the corruption circle work. i m so sorry this happened to all u guys who had experienced the unhealthy justice of the country and the corrupted community, i faithfully felt for u guys. all of nothing, i can say is malaysia policemen do not get paid enough to risk their lives carrying guns around(perhaps firing it but not just to use it to threaten for money), so they created the corruption rule, which really works for them but truly unfair to others. not a big help but if we can send all those m'fuckers to hell, i will be happy to live my life in malaysia. god bless !!

12:30 PM  
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1:35 PM  
Blogger xin said...

man... I sympathize with you but there is nothing we can do except to publish more stories and perhaps educate our younger generation to detest these wrong doings... It might be a slow process but eventually it might help...

I've encountered such policemen before. They stopped us and bothered us because they wanted money from us. We didn't hand it to them of course. But that's the thing about police here in Msia. We should not make them think that they can bully us into giving them money like charity. Guys.. know ur rights. Read about it here > Know Your Rights - by WAO

1:54 PM  
Anonymous ismail said...

excerpts from

mind you. all this cases was reported on the newspaper folks. The police need to clean up their act! Or else George Bush will come over, because they are terrorist.


Penang - A suspect had a "horrendous experience" while in police custody when molten wax was dripped onto his private part and newspapers shoved into his mouth, a Sessions Court heard yesterday. Counsel K. Simon Murali submitted that the hotel assistant housekeeper A. Vijayan, 33, was not only beaten up but also abused in a cruel manner…

The Star, Saturday, June 29, 2002, page 14

119. COPS WRAP UP PROBE, Alleged rape of two female detainees:

Police have completed investigations into the alleged rape of two female detainees at the Ampang police lock-up…

The Malay Mail, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, page 3


Malacca - State police are investigating complaints from a trailer driver who was allegedly forced to drink his own urine and had crushed chilli padi rubbed on his private part while under detention at the Jasin police lock-up…

The Star, Friday, February, 1, 2002 page 3


A businessman alleges he was threatened at gun point and beaten when he tried to break up a quarrel at a disco. He went to the police station to make a report and claimed he was punched and kicked again. He was remanded for ten days…

The Malay Mail, Sunday, 28 January, 2001, page 1

105. THAI TOURIST CLAIMS MOLEST BY COPS. They deliberately grazed my breasts and buttocks in the lock-up, says 20-year-old.

Klang - Sun: A 20-year-old tourist from Thailand said today that she was molested and mistreated by policemen while being detained in the police lock-up in Port Klang…

The Sun, Monday, November 13, 2000, page 7

10:04 PM  
Anonymous ismail said...

excerpts from

mind you. all this cases was reported on the newspaper folks. The police need to clean up their act! Or else George Bush will come over, because they are terrorist.


Penang - A suspect had a "horrendous experience" while in police custody when molten wax was dripped onto his private part and newspapers shoved into his mouth, a Sessions Court heard yesterday. Counsel K. Simon Murali submitted that the hotel assistant housekeeper A. Vijayan, 33, was not only beaten up but also abused in a cruel manner…

The Star, Saturday, June 29, 2002, page 14

119. COPS WRAP UP PROBE, Alleged rape of two female detainees:

Police have completed investigations into the alleged rape of two female detainees at the Ampang police lock-up…

The Malay Mail, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, page 3


Malacca - State police are investigating complaints from a trailer driver who was allegedly forced to drink his own urine and had crushed chilli padi rubbed on his private part while under detention at the Jasin police lock-up…

The Star, Friday, February, 1, 2002 page 3


A businessman alleges he was threatened at gun point and beaten when he tried to break up a quarrel at a disco. He went to the police station to make a report and claimed he was punched and kicked again. He was remanded for ten days…

The Malay Mail, Sunday, 28 January, 2001, page 1

105. THAI TOURIST CLAIMS MOLEST BY COPS. They deliberately grazed my breasts and buttocks in the lock-up, says 20-year-old.

Klang - Sun: A 20-year-old tourist from Thailand said today that she was molested and mistreated by policemen while being detained in the police lock-up in Port Klang…

The Sun, Monday, November 13, 2000, page 7

10:04 PM  
Anonymous ismail said...

Why is everyone calling abettermalaysia a chicken for not going to the newspaper. Or oldfart clearly trying to bring attention to issues important to him, but yet not having the guts to start a blog about francis's death or how the indians are the defactor victim by the police.

Everyone is telling abettermalaysia to goto suaram, to talk to LKS. You are like the mices in the hole shifting the responsiblity of which mice is to go put the bell on cat's neck. In the end the divided mices were all eaten by the cat.

If you feel responsible. Start your own blogs. Tell your local and foreign friends. Talk to your local MPs about it. Talk to the ngos like rotary club, kiwanis club, lions club about it. Forward this link to your friends. The main thing is to create awareness.

I already started a blog about it. Thus ensuring that this story will not died even if abettermalaysia is intimidated to end the blog.

This problem was due to our parent's ignorance in the first place, turning a blind eye and thinking it will never happend to their loved ones. Let's put a stop to it.

10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what's your blog name ismail?

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Freedom4All said...

No government that claims to be democratic has the right to treat its citizens as such.

No government that claims to be democratic should be allowed to meddle in the personal affairs of its citizens - i.e. race and religion are seperate from each other and it's nobody's business but your own what religion you practice or how you practice it - without due course.

I will always think of Malaysia as home, but I don't think I will always see it as a true democracy. It's a young nation, but it's a nation with too many paradoxes in its bureaucracy and governance. Too many paradoxes in its social structure.

11:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey. im not a malaysian myself, neither am i malay or chinese, of which this seems to be the issue here.
to whoever who gave the comment that a chinese should become the prime minister.. i have news for you pal, that can easily be achieved.. get your butt the hell outta here n go to china, or japan, or singapore(easiest for you).. hey, why blame this on the prime minister?.. you wanted to kick out all malays??.. of which you said resided 99% of malaysia's govs posts?.. ok, then.. try.. what government are you going to run with 1%??... THINK before you speak.. to abettermalaysia, i know you did not want this to happen but its those posts that you should delete, not the ones backfiring your own claims

5:30 AM  
Blogger sonia said...


I'm very sorry to hear that... Yes, it's sickening. It's too much.........

Did u finally ask around (friends or anyone) about our rights in such situations??

6:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wtf?!! is there nothing we can do to stop all these madness?

7:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corruptions are usual in malaysia.. this sucks.. but do u think it's worth it being locked and be threaten like this? feels like shoving up a god damn stick into their asses.

12:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just simply ask around your friends, anyone in Malaysia will tell you at least 1 story of police corruption.(based on true story)ha ha ha...pathetic heh?not convinced? just drive around in the major city now, police are everywhere during ramadhan to 'Raise Fund' for festive season.this statement by no means of being racist to the M's just down to earth common in Malaysia!

5:05 AM  
Blogger faisal said...

dude, that's totally wrong. I hope those policemen (and whoever involved) suffer a slow and violent death before going to hell.

and i hope youre a much bigger person than i am. and that you recover and find a way to live a life how you used to.

i'm totally pissed off just hearing about what happened to you, so i have no idea how hard it must be for you, but do get better.

1:47 AM  
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4:47 AM  
Blogger cacing82 said...

it makes me sick to the bone to read such a thing. but i know what you've written is true enough to believe, despite the fact that many who talk in the press would pull up a denial.

in many instances and ways the system that was meant to serve the people has let us down. it will sadly take a long time, perhaps another two generations of proper education before the mentality and the culture changes. That in itself i doubt would be different judging by the reactions we all too often read about when someone tries to be the HERO. We don't need HEROes. We just need to put stupid people in places where they belong. The imageries of someone appearing with a broken neck and a black eye, that apparently according to police was a "freak accident" of himself "tripping" over is something that can't be changed and is remembered well by the people. Shame shame shame.

4:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sucks man. So the time you earn a policemen's badge is the time you earn a license to squeeze money out of citizens? This is just wrong wrong wrong.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Crime_Buster said...

What to do?As long got malay pig(for police only) in police force they still suck blood like leeches.This shows why malaysia cant develop as a country.All they know is talk but not work.Take bribe from people,government didnt give them salary ah?

Sometimes i wonder what is the education level of a police?Never use his brain.No money and then set up road block beg for money.

Hope you recover from that ordeal and move on with life.

9:21 PM  

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